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Antic | Comedy, Humanitarianism, Authenticity | The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast #9
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When life throws curveballs, it's not the obstacle itself but what we learn from it that truly counts. I had the pleasure of hosting the brilliantly witty Arman Margaryan, also known as Antic, who turned the mirror on life's vagaries and found laughter in the reflection. Weaving through the tapestry of his life, Antic opened up about his personal hurdles, the bittersweet pang of losing a hero like Kobe Bryant, and how an impromptu trip to Armenia amid the Artsakh War unexpectedly turned into a humanitarian quest, reshaping his perspective on life and comedy.
In a world where authenticity is often masked, Antic stands as a beacon of truth, whether discussing the unspoken complexities of marriage or the artful dance of reading people's true intentions. Our conversation took us on a thought-provoking ride, from understanding the silent language of relationships and attachment styles to grappling with the weight of responsibility that comes with being a role model. He didn't shy away from heartfelt topics either, such as the intricacies of love and the critical importance of gut health, sharing his own transformative journey through clean eating.
Ever wondered how comedians like Antic keep their material fresh in today's whirlwind of digital media? Antic divulged his creative process and the hurdles of content creation amidst the chaos of algorithms on platforms like TikTok and Instagram. The episode is an eclectic mix of humor and humanity, of introspection and inspiration. It's an exploration of the deeper connections that bind us, all through the lens of a comedian whose craft goes beyond just making us laugh—it makes us think. Join us for a session that promises more than just chuckles; it offers an enlightening glimpse into the heart of a man who can find humor in the most unexpected places.
I do believe that everything happens for a reason and that whatever battles or difficulties I've gone through were absolutely necessary for me to see the bigger picture.
Speaker 2:I think also good marriage comes from the person having a big time understanding of where you at.
Speaker 1:You can't be a stand-up comedian and not love attention. There's definitely that underlying. I like attention. I like when people listen to what I have to say.
Speaker 2:I think people nowadays are afraid to confront each other. Even the truth is lost. I think it's just this whole mentality of let's be kind, let's be loving.
Speaker 1:The worst thing about trying to become a comedian is people aren't going to tell you you're not funny. You have to figure out if you're funny or not. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No matter what type of mistake your child makes, you just always have this room to forgive, but you will never forgive a husband and you will never forgive a wife to that extent. Hello everyone, today's episode was quite interesting and I'm still laughing inside my heart because it was genuinely probably the funniest episode that I'd ever done on this podcast show. I'm sure you already know who I'm talking about Arman Margarian Antique. This episode was hilarious. I mean I tried to keep it focused where we dive into personal questions, because I know everybody wants to see that side of him, but he couldn't stop making me laugh and he was so hard to keep a straight face.
Speaker 2:But we did get to talk about love, which was really beautiful. We did get to talk about life. We did get to talk about depression and what it's like for comedians on the stage, because it really isn't. It's not easy. They make it seem easy but it's really hard their writing process, their thought process, what goes into being on stage and a lot of the times they articulate their life. So we did get to talking about his life and what his journey has been like from loss to gain. He was really vulnerable and I really appreciated that and I think you guys will too. If you like these episodes, do not forget to subscribe to my YouTube channel and enjoy today's episode with none other than Antik. Antik Can thank you for joining me? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Because you're Yotu Karsum. Welcome to the Yotu Karsum podcast, where everything is black, with Edi Talaverdian.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, you guys. He already had me laughing. I wanted this to be more serious, but there you go. He broke a nice ice, john.
Speaker 1:John, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Anyway, how are you feeling, auntie?
Speaker 1:I'm feeling good, I'm feeling good. You had a long drive here. How was that long drive? It was nice, it was nice, I was with my cousin. It was basically my brother and his son so so where were you? I was at the um dignity health sports park, I think is the full name the la galaxy's home home field.
Speaker 1:I'm one of the organizers of the la galaxy armenian heritage night, so every year this has become like a tradition. We go shoot the promo for it and you know it's become like an annual tradition with my cousin he's the videographer. Yeah, so getting that rolling, it's on april 21st sunday, so it should be good.
Speaker 2:The third annual it's come a long way. That's exciting, yeah. So what? What are some of your plans talk to me about? Do you have anything coming up for, like comedy shows, anything? What are we looking for?
Speaker 1:so the big rush just ended with. Like show after show after show, there was a lot of stuff going on. Right now I'm in the process of writing my next show, which will be the fourth special that I've would have written, and, um, probably in september, so about fall of 2025, that'll go. So until then, keep myself busy.
Speaker 1:Little shows here and there and you know all this stuff, other stuff that I do that's linked to the antique name, basically businesses I work with and organize things like this, and you know I keep myself busy. It's cool, it's been a good year it's been a good.
Speaker 2:How did you come up with the name antique?
Speaker 1:I hate this question, I know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:You have to tell me this question because it's it's not your, I mean no, no, of course.
Speaker 1:It's become like that tattoo that you're sick of describing to people. You know what I mean. Like what does it mean?
Speaker 1:so you have to do it again then, yeah, no, it's a antique was originally supposed to be my dj producer name. Like I had this vision of being like a big festival dj, not not like weddings and stuff. Yeah, and I still like I still. One of my goals for this year is to release a musical album. I love electronic music, so anyway, we'll get into that for the next season of the eddie talaverdian podcast thing. But uh, anyway, that was supposed to be my stage name but the funny thing is my, my alter ego on the stage would have still been a clown. So antic is basically, you know how they say childish antics, so antic is a singular form of antics like someone who'd like that's pretty creative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I used to enjoy rave parties in my 20s and we used to go as like a pack of clowns, so the clown theme kind of stuck with that.
Speaker 2:Are you real?
Speaker 1:I somehow became an Armenian comedian.
Speaker 2:So how did you fall into this though?
Speaker 1:Oh just.
Speaker 2:I mean, were you always funny?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like to think so. Class clown Always, just about always. I grew up with a personality Sure.
Speaker 1:My sister's always told me I should be a comedian. So you know you never take that seriously. But no, it was almost like God put me where I belong. You know what I mean? I was pursuing music and I love music and I still do and it's something that I have to do in my life. It gives me like a lot of peace. It makes me really happy. But I opened a remember Vine, the page Vine. It was like the six second videos. It the page vine. It was like the six second videos it was the first social media with videos, I think.
Speaker 1:So. Vine app, yeah, and then armenian comedy blew up. On that. I was well one of the founding fathers of the basically like armenian funny clips and um, I, I opened a vine account to promote my music and and then some like armenian kids were doing like some comedy armenian clips. My sister, when they sent, sent me a clip like that. She was like you should try some of this stuff and I did. And then, yeah, and then that was 10 years ago, and that became that became a comedy group like them show. That became stand-up comedy. That became snapchat, snapchat became instagram, instagram became tiktok and it's become a career and it's what I I do now.
Speaker 2:It defines who I am. That is so awesome. But, antik, what would you do if you didn't have comedy?
Speaker 1:What would I do, like? What profession do you think I would be into? And if it wasn't music involved? It's so funny that this stage of my life you asked me that, because I think I would have made a hell of a psychologist.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I wish I knew this when I was younger. But are you serious? Yeah, but I mean, there's a lot of psychology involved with with comedy too.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean like a psychological shot angle, net cover mark guns, manipulate them into a story and kind of feel them out, and you know yes, but also I feel like there's this other piece to it too, that a lot of times that people tend to cover up pain with laughter. Of course of course I can resonate with that. Sometimes, when I'm under pressure or when I'm sad, I tend to laugh as a defense mechanism. I think it's a way of adapting to stress.
Speaker 1:Like the Joker from Batman, his old character is built around.
Speaker 2:Yes, can you also relate to that Of?
Speaker 1:course, of course. I think most comedians can.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For sure, and I think a lot of people have that, except they don't have an outlet for it, you know, and comedy is the perfect like that's true, you know, but for some people they could be playing the guitar, which I also have access to. I also play the guitar, but there's just something about getting up on stage and just, uh, releasing all of it, you know how does that feel for you?
Speaker 2:it was great, especially since I'm an introvert no I'm an introvert heavily you know what I was thinking about? That? Because I'm sometimes. I mean, I I look at your videos and I you're gone yeah, you're gone for like a good, two, three weeks a month, and then you'll come back right you'll have like this hit and then you're gone again. So as a therapist, you process, you're like, hmm, so he has to be an introvert. I'm an introvert, but I'm glad that you kind of confirmed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm 100% introvert, and I even confirmed it even more now, having gave up alcohol for Lent. Social life just went whole limited.
Speaker 2:I watched your stories. Oh my God, how is that?
Speaker 1:I feel great, but I kind of value alcohol in a different way. Now you think I love gorsika. It's a good tool to have access to courage, and the funny thing is that I'm at a bar at least four nights a week because I I play competitive pool, like that's my, it's one of the things.
Speaker 1:When you say that people are going to think, now you're I'm what alcoholic no I gave up alcohol just to confirm, and I'm still going to the bar I've been drinking water like can I have a shot of water on the rocks? So it's been, I've been, so you know I love the game, so uh tables happen to be at bars, so it was yeah, I was right in the belly of the beast, but no, it's great, it's basically over now.
Speaker 1:I it was very tough though, but as far as being an introvert and going on stage, it's like inch inch con extrovert metriska. I, I just become you. You become a different person on stage. You know what I mean and, like I, I become who I wish I always was and who is that? The person on stage really no, I've it's.
Speaker 1:It's interesting because it's interesting? Because even practicing stand-up comedy, it's impossible to recreate what it's really like. It's absolutely impossible to recreate in your room in front of a mirror, going through my bits, going through the order, the segues to this. It's impossible to capture that feeling that the audience gives to you. And I think you can't be a stand-up comedian and not love attention. There's definitely that underlying. I like attention, I like when people listen to what I have to say and I feel like a lot of growing up not people didn't really listen to what I had to say, so really yeah and I'm sure it feels good because you do.
Speaker 2:You have a lot of people who really respect you. To another level. Thank you they really appreciate you and a lot of people find happiness through your comedies. I'm sure you get messages like that all the time.
Speaker 1:So that's another form of validation, I'm sure, for you Sure, validation, sure, but also kind of like now that I'm writing my new show, it's like an update on what happened in life. For the last, you get a chance to like your like when I'm going to my favorite stand-up comedian's show and he has a new show written. It's like okay, what happened to this guy in his last two years? Let's go hear it. Your job is to live your life and report it. You know that's the concept for stand-up comedy.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like your diary over the last few years, the thoughts you've had, the situations you've been in, and then you get up on stage and then you share it with a bunch of people who are like wide, wide open arms ready to listen to it. So it's such a fulfilling form of entertainment. It's so fulfilling when it goes your way. It's great when?
Speaker 2:yes, have you ever had moments where you were just like this is not interesting people, people are not laughing. Do those happen? I don't know. Does it happen for you?
Speaker 1:not like it happens. It's happened like a handful of times. But the problem with stand-up comedy is that it's such a specific like undivided attention or nothing. You know what I mean. It's not like a live band playing something where you could still have a conversation, you know. Or like a dj kowski chest bottom, it doesn't matter, you're at the table, enjoying it. But with stand-up comedy sometimes asking people for people, people's undivided attention is very difficult, you know like oh, I'm sure like at a parahan, this or something like that.
Speaker 1:We're like there's you're entertaining everybody.
Speaker 2:You're like.
Speaker 1:Imagine being at a parahan this and telling, like grandpa at table 13, to stop talking. You know what I mean. It's not going to happen. So the setup for stand-up is very easy. It takes a microphone, some spotlight and a good sound system and a crowd facing you. But if those absolute essentials aren't fit some bad shows that I've had were, they just got me on really late, like people are already dead, like you can't even pay attention if their life depended on it.
Speaker 1:So there's, there's all kinds of things that factor in and out. I'm more experienced, I'm like okay, but I'm not getting on later than nine or I'm not getting on. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have your boundaries. What's interesting is that you said a lot of the times standup comedians. We portray our life to people right do you feel like? Well, first of all, how has the last couple of years been for you, since COVID? Oh my god, and how right, and how has that impacted your career?
Speaker 1:oh well now. Now it's at the point where it's like the the light at the end of the tunnel, because there was that dark tunnel of COVID and COVID and everything that fell into COVID. You know, covid also meant I lost my job. Covid meant that no more entertainment. Covid meant that my shows are canceled. There's no shows happening every time soon. My, my main main breadwinner is my is my comedy. That's this how I make a living. So imagine going back to the drawing board after, finally and 2019 was the year where I was like, oh my god, like I can really make a living because I've been fighting to keep this what I do for a living.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean yeah so 2019 was like oh my god, this is it I did. It shows sponsors such and such merch. This is I'm making my living. And in 2020 happens. First of all, 2020 starts with my idol dying in a helicopter crash kobe bryant hero. So it already started, you know, and that's if there was one celebrity in the world whose death would affect me horribly it was Kobe Bryant and it happened. You know what I mean. Covid started after that. Covid was a disaster as it was on for you personally, I mean everyone generally.
Speaker 1:But it was a disaster because COVID would, like I said, mean I lost my job. Covid would mean the only benefit of COVID was that at the time, my sister, we were living with eight people in one house. It was like a Palm Springs Armenian getaway. That's a blessing, though that was a major blessing, like God works in miraculous ways kind of thing.
Speaker 1:That was a big blessing. But during COVID there just came a point where I was mentally really having a hard time here, because now imagine going back to the drawing board after finally figuring out who you are, what you're going to do. It's working. And then back to the drawing board. Okay, like now what? Go back into construction? Should I go back? I don't know what should I do. Maybe hit up my friend who has a body shop? What do I do?
Speaker 1:you know so it's kind of it impacts you in a in a very, uh, negative way. And then I figured out the solution to the problem. I was like, okay, I just need to regroup. Come back to my senses. The United States is very stressful right now. Let me go to Armenia. Let me go charge up. It'll be great, armenia charges me up. I need both in my life.
Speaker 2:I need.
Speaker 1:LA and Armenia. I go to Armenia. One week later, artsakh War begins. So 2020 was just this non-stop blow after blow, and then, when I got there, it felt like it felt like god put me there for a reason. Now, too, so I can help, I can use my platform, raise funds, come up with you know everything that there's so many moving parts to you know country being in war and through that I would get back.
Speaker 1:The day I got back was november 9. I think the trilateral agreement was signed that day. I actually came back. It was seven weeks later. Then, about a month later, I lost someone. I was very close to someone I loved very tragically.
Speaker 2:Who did you lose on? Take An uncle yeah, an uncle. Family member Family member.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was just one thing after another to 2020 and then 2021. I don't know, I had some health problems early in the year, new Year's Day, like. Imagine like it's this New Year's night and you're like get nuts too. We've had a hard time this year and everything was difficult, but you know, we're built for this. God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers. And then the next morning I feel some pain here, january 1st 2021. Oh, some pain here, january 1st 2021. Oh, okay, it's unbearable pain. I'm like I gotta go to the hospital. You know, diverticulitis like what the hell is this and how the hell did it attach itself to me? So it was just one blow after another, but you know it's toughening me up and in 2021 things started shaping up a little bit again, but you know things started rolling again. So, having gone through all that is just definitely changed me a bit, definitely changed me a bit.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I just I couldn't, I couldn't point it out to you, but I definitely feel like I've changed a bit from all that stuff is that the only instance in your life where you've had difficulty or you've had some other times where you've had difficulty and it really just taught you wisdom and shaped you as a person it has?
Speaker 1:It's happened quite a few times. It's happened quite a few times In my mid-20s. I fell into a deep depression.
Speaker 2:Mid-20s.
Speaker 1:Mid-20s, I fell into. That's when I realized and you don't know, it's depression and as Armenians, we're taught to look at stuff like this.
Speaker 2:You know we're gonna get these translated.
Speaker 1:Look at those through your fingers. You know so. So yeah, and you know, it's one of those things. You don't realize it was depression, until it's over and I'm like, oh my god, what was wrong with me?
Speaker 2:but you know, like this anyway, so what do you think was wrong though? Um everyone's experience is different. Everyone's is different.
Speaker 1:But this was in my mid 20s. My life kind of just turned around, flipped upside down and, like the person that the, the people who were closest to me, kind of disappeared and then disappeared yeah, like old friends who just kind of took their own route. You know know, the details are unnecessary here, I think.
Speaker 2:You want me to push you on the? No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Push me more, and how does that make you feel Okay?
Speaker 2:I love how you mimic me.
Speaker 1:Okay, and how does that make you feel? And how do you feel about that? And I love how many different ways you guys can word that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can totally switch it to like 15 years.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so nothing was going for me.
Speaker 1:I wasn't sure where I was headed. You know I was. I came out of high school wanting to be into film. I wanted to be a film director, and then this happened. And I wanted to be a film director and then this happened. And then the film school not a single film school rejected from everything. Nothing was working out for me, absolutely nothing. I was headed nowhere fast and, like my closest friends, just disappeared. Why they disappeared, it's a whole another conversation. You know, the person who I was, who I was in a relationship with, that didn't work out with her. Uh, and then, I don't know, I would just. I just felt alone. I felt completely alone and that's such a nasty feeling.
Speaker 2:I felt alone. No, I felt completely alone. Oh, that's such a nasty feeling I felt alone.
Speaker 1:No, I really felt alone, and you know. And then I don't know where I was headed, I didn't know what I was going to be. I was good at many little things here and there, but I don't know everything. Nothing was going my way.
Speaker 2:So I just felt loneliness, you know, and like not just a physical loneliness but like a loneliness in your head, in your soul, you know like you feel, like there's four walls around your brain, you know, and sometimes loneliness. And it's interesting when sometimes you hear people talk that experience loneliness. They say, even if there's people around you, you still feel lonely of course, and that's such a horrible feeling that is that is.
Speaker 1:You know it was. It was that the age where it was, that it was. I remember where I had this I feeling of constantly feeling sorry for myself, and you know how would you say anush in english?
Speaker 2:sweet?
Speaker 1:how awesome it's like it's like you're a surfer, Someone's drinking water and you're like sweet, I just thought of that. I'm like how would you say it?
Speaker 2:But yes, the loneliness piece is definitely hard, but here's what I'm See. Our age differences is not that much right? How old?
Speaker 1:are you? I'm 37.
Speaker 2:I'm 39. Okay, so our time we were more resilient. I feel like yeah, you know it's interesting. You say I was depressed, but then, when it was over, I look back I'm like, wow, what was going on with me? Nowadays it lingers on.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What do you think happened to the generational gap? What is so different now that we were able to overcome that? But with this generation it just lingers on to suicidality and more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think social media is really messing people up. To be honest with you, you think, so I think social media is really messing people up. Imagine feeling that feeling of loneliness while scrolling through. Everyone else is happy. Oh, this person's in Vegas, oh this girl's out. They portray happiness, but we don't know, yeah, yeah, but at that moment you don't.
Speaker 2:You don't see that. You're not conscious of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't rewire your brain to understand that other layer to it. But you know that it brings in a lot of evil too. You know what I mean. It brings in a lot of good. It's done. It's done a lot of good things for me. Me too. It's made, it's given me a. I am where I am in my life right now because I use social media and it worked out really well for me.
Speaker 1:But it can also be your worst enemy, you know yeah you don't know what it's feed, you don't know what that stuff's feeding. Now there's all this TikTok stuff about you know so dangerous and you know? What is it feeding our kids? You don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, what is it about psychology that you love? Let's quite a segue here, but I want to go back to that. What?
Speaker 1:is it about?
Speaker 2:You said you'd be a psychologist. What makes you think you'd be a great psychologist?
Speaker 1:I'm really good at people reading people I'm really good at, I'm really really good at understanding what the undertone of what someone is saying really is kind of like reading between the lines of a person. Um, I think like I'm saying one thing but also saying what's the underlying agenda of this whole topic. I get it. I'm really good at reading people. I could get a really good read on people.
Speaker 2:Like how they're like what they're feeling, things like that.
Speaker 1:You know how a lot of times clients, it's hard for them to actually say what's on their mind, but they'll kind of dance around it.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:You can really tell if someone's dancing around something. You mean you call them out. You're good at calling people. I'm not sure I in my regular life. Yes, as a psychologist I wouldn't be like. What the hell do you mean by that? Why not be honest? Is that what you do? Yes, but it takes a while for them to get comfortable with you, right?
Speaker 2:you. You know, when I was in my phd program I had a professor he is, he was wonderful, he is and he said a good psychologist, a good doctor in general, would never be afraid to lose a client. You shouldn't be afraid, because you never know, by confronting the person with truth, they might walk away and never return. They might walk away and never return, but they will never forget you and even in later age they will remember what you've said. And maybe that statement will change their life.
Speaker 2:So it's important to speak truth, and I think people nowadays are afraid to confront each other. Even the truth is lost. I think it's just this whole mentality of let's be kind, let's be loving and telling people the truth is sure not present anymore sure but it's.
Speaker 1:It's also like hima. Maybe that client, maybe that patient wasn't ready to open up about it then. But isn't even just the process of them getting comfortable with you a part of your job as well?
Speaker 2:yes, building rapport, absolutely sure, sure. So so, like you're not the first session of course not boom, no building rapport is important first session lie detector test. You know, yes, but you would you? I think that absolutely, you would make a wonderful. And why am I saying this? You would make a great psychologist, because it's not always about the education.
Speaker 1:No, I'm already the psychologist to my close friends and family.
Speaker 2:Yes, I already am. That's your experience, right, and I've played that role in a lot of people's lives already.
Speaker 1:There you go and I'm really good at understanding whatever experiences I've had in my personal life, that a lot of those experiences, I feel like I've been through those for the greater good because I can get through people who I can tell are going through that 100%. And I feel that I really do believe that.
Speaker 2:What do you think you have gone through in your lifetime that has really made you the person you are today?
Speaker 1:It's so hard to pinpoint it. It's so hard to pinpoint it, but I do believe that everything happens for a reason and that whatever battles or difficulties I've gone through were absolutely necessary for me to see the bigger picture. You know what I mean. I think when you're younger and less wiser, you zone in so much on this situation and that situation and that situation, and when you have enough of these situations and then you realize that these are all just little pieces of a much bigger puzzle, you know. So, like now, I'm just trying to focus on the big picture in life. I'm just trying to see. You know, I'm not step by step, obviously, but now I I understand it, but I feel I feel wiser now, and I couldn't tell you exactly why, but I can't tell you I can't tell you.
Speaker 1:I couldn't tell you if I wanted to. I'm not sure what situation it was, but a little bit of this, little bit of that you know every, every age brings new, new challenges. Every, every, you know new friendship, new relationship. Everything you know, obviously, you bring in with a backpack. You carry a backpack of all your experiences with you, but I'm still learning things every day. You know, and I'm I'm sure I got a lot of new battles ahead of me, but I'm pretty confident in my, my ability to withstand any kind of battle now?
Speaker 1:yes, before before. You're not too sure. You know like hang. You hear all kinds of stuff, such and such as gonna score off, and she got on this such and such as locked up on substance abuse. One like there's a I know myself much better because of those experiences.
Speaker 2:Knowing yourself now at 37,. What would you tell to the 20-year-old antique that was struggling with depression and confusion and all of that?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's easy.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Invest in Bitcoin.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Invest in Bitcoin.
Speaker 2:Really how? Why? How is that? Is that, tell me? I'm curious. I'd be rich now. Yeah, you think being rich solves. It's a joke. No, it's a joke, okay, it's a.
Speaker 1:It's funny because I did that in my instagram stories and because I'm taking it where eight out of ten people were said invest in. They would tell their younger selves to invest in bitcoin. So and it was funny to me. Yes, and you know it's funny, I, I, I put out that question. You have like one one minute with your 12 year old self. What do you? What do you say?
Speaker 1:yes and it was either. It was either some way to make more money. Six out of ten must have been some. Some way to invest in something more so money is a big problem for people.
Speaker 2:Obviously we we're all very well that but then I never.
Speaker 1:I never followed up on that instagram story because there was some really sad stuff. There was some I didn't. I was trying to get a humorous angle, and then you know how I then reshare their comments and comment on what they said. Some of it was really sad and, you know, hurtful, like someone someone's been through. It's like some kind of a pain, and then they used my instagram story as an outlet as if, you know so that kind of affected me. Everybody's going through stuff. Everybody's going through all kinds of stuff, you know. So it kind of makes me feel good. I feel good that I play this role in the world. You know it's, it's a good, you know it's needed and it's such an honor that I'm chosen. I play this role in the world.
Speaker 2:You know it's a good. Of course it is.
Speaker 1:It's such an honor that I'm chosen to play this role and people follow me for happy reasons and then, like, I'll see people on the street who are like a fan, a follower, whatever, and then they might not say a word at me, but they'll look at me and they'll smile Like you know what an honor that is, or like, Like you remind them of a happy moment or a happy joke or something, because there's so many things out there ready to put you down.
Speaker 1:There's so many things that just crush you, end you. People want the worst for you. There's a lot of that.
Speaker 2:Do you experience that?
Speaker 1:Don't we all? I mean don't we all?
Speaker 2:Some people will say no, but do you?
Speaker 1:On an everyday basis. No, no, but it's a part of the learning experience. People are so money-driven that drives me nuts. People are so money-driven I wish I loved money, like people love money.
Speaker 2:What do you think should drive people besides money? Your opinion, your wisdom.
Speaker 1:What should drive people how?
Speaker 2:Motivation. So lots of people are money-driven basically.
Speaker 1:Money-driven people drive me nuts okay, so what?
Speaker 2:tell me why?
Speaker 1:because they are willing to sacrifice friendships and they're willing to sacrifice communication like themselves, their soul their soul connect you. You know, and and now, added to that list is clout. Now, people, clout has become like a method of payment, almost this you know in this generation, and people will throw you under the bus just for clout or whatever. They do things out of character for clout, you know you seem.
Speaker 2:It's interesting. You, you say that you're an introvert and I'm hearing you talk and I'm just listening to you, I'm observing everything you're saying, but my uh translation of you as a human being, it sounds like you're very sensitive I'm pretty sensitive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive. Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive Right.
Speaker 2:And I think there's nothing wrong with that, by all means, like people get offended when you say that I'm definitely not insensitive. No, you're not, and that would be definitely that would be a concern. But you're incredibly sensitive because this half hour I'm hearing you talk. You talk about things that you see that are wrong in the society and how that's impacting you as a person.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's really interesting about impacting me and impacting my decision whether or not I should have kids one day.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm sorry, but it does.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:It impacts if you want to get married, if you want to pursue with marriage, if you want to pursue with having children. I mean, mean, I think that a lot of us are not doing a really good job being role models.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean that especially for younger generation and maybe older too for sure, and you know it's funny, you bring up role models like from the beginning when antique name took off. Like I, I don't. I'm in the back of my head. I've always said that this thing of there aren't enough good role models out there, how could I be a good role model? How could I use my platform? Right, I don't curse because of this. Like I, I have a lot of cursing things to say. Like there's a lot.
Speaker 2:You are very appropriate. Your comedy is very appropriate family experience.
Speaker 1:I want, I want, I want you to come with your grandma and your dad and to the comedy show you know, sort of thing. But just simply because there's enough people out there throwing F-bombs on TikTok and TV and such and such like.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. I feel like I have that responsibility to do it differently. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:How did you decide that, that that is a big responsibility to take on yourself, because there's a lot of people looking up to you, a lot of yeah to take on yourself, because there's a lot of people looking up to you, a lot of, yeah, future comedians that want to be, and I've seen some say, oh my god, antique, he's so amazing, he's so wonderful, he's so appropriate, which is so important I'm sure your parents are also super proud they are, they are.
Speaker 1:I've won their hearts. I've won their hearts after. After many younger day disappointments I've won their back.
Speaker 2:I think your mom was in some of your videos. I remember, I think, one or two, quite some time ago.
Speaker 1:You'll see them every now and then You'll see them.
Speaker 2:How are they doing?
Speaker 1:They're great. They're hilarious people.
Speaker 2:How's your sister? She's great, she's really nice. Her and I connected on Instagram a few times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sister's awesome.
Speaker 2:Do you just have one sister?
Speaker 1:One older sister.
Speaker 2:How are you with your parents and your sister?
Speaker 1:Great, I call my sister my best friend.
Speaker 2:That's so wonderful, she's my little big sister.
Speaker 1:It's fun and you're a carry too. That's made me a much better person in the world, by the way.
Speaker 2:Being a carry has really shaped me a lot.
Speaker 1:That's an important role that's a big responsibility too because of being a carry, I've realized why someone would have a kid carry means uncle, by the way, you guys. No, let them look it up, let them do their research.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to have the team put uncle in translation should we make it difficult?
Speaker 1:sorry guys. Should we make it difficult? Sorry guys.
Speaker 2:I'm going to make that a short, sorry, guys.
Speaker 1:Sorry, Aram and Arash.
Speaker 2:They're going to hear this.
Speaker 1:So I can see why people have kids. I can see why people have kids. I can see why people have kids.
Speaker 2:Why? Why, do you think people have children?
Speaker 1:because they're bored auntie, of course they're not. You recently had a child.
Speaker 2:I did. I have a 10 month old 10 month old. God bless, thank you, you need to. You know, there's a saying in Armenian. They say should I say that why?
Speaker 1:you never know what you say has nothing to do with it. I can't wait if it's meant to happen, let it happen listen, but you also have to put work in there.
Speaker 2:It's not just I'm going to wait for God.
Speaker 1:That's the easy part. The work is the easy part. The work after that the life sentence is where it gets a little difficult, like, if you have two kids, you have two life sentences, that's it.
Speaker 2:Might as well have the third.
Speaker 1:Now you're talking. Now you're talking.
Speaker 2:How many kids do you want to have in the future If I have kids two. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because me and my sister was perfect. You know, you have to have someone where me, for instance, yes, me suit this, of course.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God Brothers, I have a younger brother, younger like three years.
Speaker 1:How much younger. Three years younger? Okay, see me nice. So that's what that bruise is like. I'm just kidding, I have a bruise.
Speaker 2:No, you don't what yeah maybe it's okay, don't don't. Chunas means you don't have one yes, I'm looking at your camera I should be looking at my.
Speaker 1:This is your wide. That's the wide that's mine antique.
Speaker 2:You want to know why people have children? Because it's meaningful. It gives them meaning. No for sure no for sure.
Speaker 1:my children give Because it's meaningful. It gives them meaning.
Speaker 2:No for sure, no for sure, my children give me meaning. I can't live without them.
Speaker 1:Of course, I feel like I do want to have kids.
Speaker 2:Yes, you should.
Speaker 1:Am I not too late?
Speaker 2:37?.
Speaker 1:I love your natural reaction Not at all. You just came out of your podcast voice and you're like 37?.
Speaker 2:Not at all. You just came out of your podcast voice and you're like 37? Not at all. You're not late at all, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, are you in a relationship? You know what Armenians do, you know what Armenians do?
Speaker 2:Dodging the question.
Speaker 1:We'll get that. You know what Armenians do. You know what Armenians do. First of all, they make you feel like you're already too late. No matter what he might, I know that's it, you're done. You're done. It's too late for you now. Second, like Armenian grandmas will now do math, trying to figure out Fucking English. I mean, you got editors for a reason. Huh, it sounds better. You're killing me Like they'll do math. They'll do math. They'll say, okay, right now, you're 37, your kid's gonna be, by the time you have your kid and the kid's 10 years old, you're going to be 48 years old. How are you going to gandak once is? How are you gonna throw the damn ball? I'm like I don't. I'm like I'm more focused on the kid being three months old right now. I'm going to contain myself.
Speaker 2:How do you laugh? Podcast-y? I don't know. Podcast-y. Because, you know the Armenian way you have hair.
Speaker 1:You can do like Make sure the lighting is good on the laugh. Oh my god, antik, are you in a relationship, sir, I am in a relationship.
Speaker 2:Make sure the lighting's good. On the left, Like oh, oh God, Antique. Are you in a relationship, sir?
Speaker 1:I am in a relationship. Yay, I'm giving it a shot.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Yeah, are you open to talk about that?
Speaker 1:I'd rather not too much. I'd rather not too much, but Are you in love? Okay, you just went. Wow, Do you want to talk about that? I'm like, oh, I'm not sure, are you in love? Lourdes Are you, I mean it's a yes or no. I'm not sure what love is. I just took it to a different level. Now let's turn the tables. What exactly is love, edith, and what do you think Now I do? Can I do my job? Define love?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, so are you.
Speaker 1:Well, you're clearly in love. Let's hear it, of course. Okay, tell me. You tell me and I'll tell you if I'm in that.
Speaker 2:What love is's? Hear it, of course. Okay, tell me. You tell me and I'll tell you if I'm in that. What love is. Oh my gosh. I think that love is something you can't describe. I think as soon as you describe it, you're I wouldn't say faking it. I don't want to say that, but I think that love is a very indescribable feeling, because it's so cliche. If I say it's going to make love, my husband makes me feel complete, my husband makes me feel happy. Like those things are mandatory. First of all, you have to be happy. I think that's a very selfish responsibility to put on a partner to make you happy.
Speaker 2:Of course your partner is not supposed to make you happy, so that's no question. Murder is not supposed to make you happy, so that's no question. But I think love is a very undescribable feeling With kids.
Speaker 1:Maybe I could describe it because it's unconditional. I think the better response from you would have been you know that you can describe, for example, how it is with kids. You know whatever your kids are, but I haven't found the words yet. I haven't I haven't.
Speaker 1:I swear to god, there is no words every I swear to you 90 of every song written, every movie made, every play written. Everything is about love. There's this, the big L word, everything. The biggest scene in the movie is he turned around in slow motion and said I love you, but we can't explain it. No, sorry, it's like an Herbal Essence commercial shoot.
Speaker 2:I can't explain it.
Speaker 1:This is what they talk about in every song you listen to growing up, every movie. The worst thing that could happen in a movie is someone dies. The best thing that could happen in a movie is someone falls in love, but we can't explain it.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, we watch Indian movies all the time. I do, I still do. Love is portrayed so beautifully, but it's still unexplainable yeah, I don't know, do you think?
Speaker 1:do you think love could be an illusion sometimes? No no how, about how about all the times people thought they're in love and they weren't then they weren't but if they went along with it, they would believe that that was love for the rest of their life, but then that's not truthful but that's what they felt at the moment well, not.
Speaker 2:There's been a time that I thought I was in love, but it are, and I could have swore it was love well are all feelings real? Define real logical, present, actual, factual okay.
Speaker 1:If someone punches you in the stomach, that feeling's real but that's pain that you physically feel.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, there's also mental pain chat yes that has to be factual so yes, again some feeling, not all what about the simpler one?
Speaker 1:what? What about? Like, uh, I I love them, but something's off or some, or there's red flags and I don't know if I should ignore them. You know what I mean. How is puppy love? Love like we all? We all felt puppy love at some point of our lives, right where when you would have swore like teenagers I love her. Wasn't that kind of love at the time?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I think that's maybe like an attraction.
Speaker 1:Or maybe that's the first time you're feeling certain things it could be Is this what they're talking about in movies. Is this the stuff? But love is so much deeper than that, though so, to answer your question, I don't know if I'm in love because I thought I was before and I wasn't. I don't, I don't know, not sure, not sure I believe in the movie love, like the movie love. I'm not sure if I believe in fairytale love.
Speaker 2:I think it's different than than like hollywood's portrayed well do you think that the way you love yourself and the way that you respect yourself is the same love as you would give to a partner? That should, that should be yeah because you would know what love is if you genuinely have love for yourself. Yeah, do you have love for yourself.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I love myself.
Speaker 2:Good.
Speaker 1:I love myself.
Speaker 2:That's important.
Speaker 1:I love myself so much.
Speaker 2:It's an important question too. I'm in love with myself.
Speaker 1:I think I'm the one I can't take anything. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But, we got to keep it entertaining.
Speaker 2:Yes, we do, of course we do.
Speaker 1:I like this. I like this.
Speaker 2:I like this. I like this. Let's just not get into more deeper conversations, because everybody else's podcast is about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, let's keep the politics out of here, because that goes into politics. No, no, no, I get it.
Speaker 2:I get it.
Speaker 1:I, you can't discuss. I mean, certain topics make some people really uncomfortable to talk about, so it's understandable. I like to avoid talking about things that I don't think about in my everyday life. But why don't you?
Speaker 2:think about things like that, don't you think it's important and it makes the world?
Speaker 1:I have enough stress in my life right now. I have enough of Armenia stress to worry about, artak stress to worry about. I have my family, the kids, any Disneyland, any Universal. This is my problem.
Speaker 2:I hear you no seriously, though.
Speaker 1:Seriously though, let me tell you, the most stressed I've ever been in my life were times where I dove too deep into politics. Sure, played a big, big.
Speaker 2:And sometimes it could get pretty intense. When you dive too much into politics, you go deep and you go deep and then it's hard, it's tough.
Speaker 1:It's tough Because then you get into like this is what they tell us, what happens behind the curtains.
Speaker 2:Did you ever think like that though?
Speaker 1:Anyone who's ever followed American politics for just a slight amount of time. I mean. Conspiracy theories are another way to corrupt your own brain.
Speaker 2:But do you think they're real? I mean, even though they're called conspiracy theories?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think some are. What is it with this show that people choke and can't talk?
Speaker 2:Nobody chokes on this show.
Speaker 1:You were saying you had a guest before who met with no media in a make-make exangle guest before it was armin and he was thirsty oh okay, I misunderstood it, but what is it?
Speaker 2:I'm like nobody chokes on my show.
Speaker 1:I don't know so paramedics have never been in here no, do you need one?
Speaker 2:no?
Speaker 1:no, I'm good.
Speaker 2:I think that maybe it's a very intense conversation and this is not intense.
Speaker 1:Wait till we talk about the Lakers. It's going to get crazy.
Speaker 2:What about the Lakers?
Speaker 1:They're driving me nuts. Sorry, they're driving me nuts, right now Sorry, am I too pushy? If I'm too pushy, no, no, I like your style. Thank you. I like your attempts, they're good. Thank you, I'm trying I could be like I really like tomatoes and Eddie would be like but do you?
Speaker 2:love tomatoes, but do you love tomatoes? Tomato.
Speaker 1:Tomatoes. Tomato Pomodoro w dzawadze. Are you a pomodoro w dzawadze person at 2 am after the wedding?
Speaker 2:No, I don't even stay at weddings until 2 am.
Speaker 1:Not even back in the days, like I, when you were the bridesmaid or something well with parents because I wasn't married at the time.
Speaker 2:Yes, obligation had to, but now, were you down with the?
Speaker 1:I had to be were you ever a bridesmaid? Of course twice were you one of those bridesmaids who, like halfway through the party, took off their high heels and put on Jordans?
Speaker 2:Never my mother would have killed me. If I did that, I would have never done that. I would have never done that. By the way, I was a pretty fascinating bridesmaid, you know how sick of being an usher I am.
Speaker 1:I retired At this point. I'm an usher for, like my younger cousins, what about Kavor?
Speaker 2:Are you anyone's Kavor?
Speaker 1:Kavor.
Speaker 2:It is pretty expensive to be a Kavor. Who's the richest comedian?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a good question. Who would be the richest? Probably dave chapelle right now I love that guy.
Speaker 2:That guy, we both paused and thought about some of his things in videos.
Speaker 1:We love that guy. We'll be back after these messages. You have a really good sense of humor, you know I do.
Speaker 2:My husband tells me that all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah how's things with your husband?
Speaker 2:really well. Um, so we have a 10 month old antique. Oh my god I mean noah is he's. He's 11 years old, so he's pretty independent, does things on his own. He loves you, by the way he's 11 years old.
Speaker 1:He's 11 years older than you.
Speaker 2:He's 11 years old.
Speaker 1:My son, oh I thought you're talking about your husband also. He's 11 years old. No wonder you wanted to dive into the politics like can't work.
Speaker 2:He can't control his life either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you have no I have a husband who's not 11.
Speaker 2:I have a son who's 11 nice.
Speaker 1:So 11 and a 10 month old, that must be interesting um, it's interesting, but it's.
Speaker 2:Babies are a lot of work I know they are a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but I know it's.
Speaker 2:It's really challenging again. It's like super meaningful and you get happy when you go pick them up and you know all that stuff, but it's really really challenging and strains the relationship a little bit so easy, baby, or is it a cry at night? She's sorry no, no, her name's nazany. She's. She's a very. She's not a crier, she's a very easy child, but she's a child and yeah you know, when you have your own business and you have a podcast and then my husband's business and his, it's just a lot so it's pretty, it's pretty intense, but real partnership matters here yeah you know, having a really good partner.
Speaker 2:So you know, when I say love, you know I don't, I don't mean to that extent like you have to lose yourself or you know, but it's important to have a right partner of course no, it's so important, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, and I wasn't being a thing about, I wasn't avoiding your, your question no, I know you're not.
Speaker 2:You answer I genuinely don't know.
Speaker 1:You know because I've been wrong before, but if I was to go through a checklist of everything that should fall under that umbrella, absolutely there, yeah do you feel like back?
Speaker 2:it's so interesting, my, my thing. I'm so sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1:My thing is am I cut out because for a lot of years I've believed that marriage isn't for me and I'm more of a lone wolf kind of thing. Is, am I cut out? Because for a lot of years I've believed that marriage isn't for me and I'm more of a lone wolf kind of thing and, like I think you, throughout years you adapt to that. So my thing is, I go into my shell a lot of times where, like I just I'm used to walking into a place alone, I'm used to doing thinking for myself and doing for myself. You know, like I have this funny thing that I like to say is, at this point, just the thought of getting married is like I'd be divorcing myself.
Speaker 2:But that makes me think, like what are some attributes about yourself that you're not approving, that you think you will?
Speaker 1:I have my ups and downs. That's a given, though Ups and downs like I want to be left alone for long periods of time. I like to be left alone for long periods of time.
Speaker 2:Hmm, I like to be left alone for long periods of time. Long periods of time, yeah, as in how long? Let's say Weeks, no, no.
Speaker 1:There might be like three days where, like, I'm just really hard to get a word out of me. It doesn't mean I'm in a dark place, it doesn't mean I'm in a sad place, I'm just kind of recharging if you will.
Speaker 2:It's weird. It's weird for me too, but I'm not, I'm just quiet. I could be quiet for three or four days at a time. Do you think that your partner would be very empathetic towards that recharge period?
Speaker 1:here's the problem with that kind of thing is the partner usually? Like it's me, it's a thing, they think it's them thing, you know, and that's difficult because, but it's very natural for them to think so, right, we're like, is it something?
Speaker 2:I said, yeah, as a woman as a woman and maybe not fully safe in the relationship, probably that's. Those are the thoughts that would come up. But um, we're getting into like attachments then, because everyone has their own attachment style right. Like so you might be the avoidant attachment where maybe an argument arises and you say I need a few days to come back and talk about that argument.
Speaker 1:Avoidant attachment yes, avoidant.
Speaker 2:Where your partner is the anxious, anxious. We need to solve this now. We need to talk about this right now, because do you love me? Are you gonna leave me? So everybody has an attachment interesting and it is it's really interesting because attachments are 99.999 percent of our relationships with people.
Speaker 2:so you might might be clingy, you might be avoiding, you might be super anxious and you might be secure. Hardly anybody is secure, especially in the Armenian culture. We don't have a lot of secure attachments. We don't, and that's just because of intergenerational trauma and everything that's happened with our DNA changing with trauma. But attachments really matter. So if you're the type that's pretty avoidant and you like to go into that three-day recharge, then you also have a responsibility to fulfill your partner's attachment, which most likely will be anxious to soothe that anxiety of hers that it's not a you thing.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:So it's about that proper communication, like I'm not, I'm just.
Speaker 1:This is my attachment style. I think my problem is that. I think my problem and this is just me self-analyzing is that throughout the years, I've found such a peaceful and safe place alone that, like, I feel like in the back of my head there's always this voice of like in case this is driving you nuts right now, there's that peaceful and quiet place still available for you. It's horrible, right.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say horrible, because I've adapted to that lifestyle.
Speaker 1:Yes, but let me tell you, let me clear something else up for you you see, you went from zero to 100, for so are you in a relationship? Oh, are you in love? So, since you went to zero, to 100 let me just clear up that the girl that I am dating in a relationship with isn't is a fantastic girl and she's a great girl.
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:And because I think she might watch this podcast. And then you said that you're peaceful without me. No, no, I'm just kidding, no, seriously, just to clarify, because Of course. Yeah, yeah, no seriously, but. That's sweet Dante. But in the past, in my past experiences, relationship experiences, like I said, I talk to people who are in love. I'm like okay, tell me, what is it? Like you said it's so hard to explain. And then you're like well, you say you're in love.
Speaker 2:I think that when people go back to their Is love being content. I take awkward pauses sometimes because I think heavy.
Speaker 1:okay, you should Geniuses usually do.
Speaker 2:Oh, thanks. Is love being content? I think on the contrary, I think on the contrary. I think that love should have several components to it. It should make you angry, it should make you motivated, it should make you calm, it should make you uncalm. I don't think that contentment comes with love.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's dissect here a little bit. Sure Is the love that you're talking about and can't explain. Is it unconditional? I think that the only person, okay, I think that the only person who experiences unconditional love is a parent.
Speaker 2:Sure fair enough, because unconditional love is about ongoing forgiveness. Yeah, enough, because unconditional love is about ongoing forgiveness? Yeah, and I think no matter well to some moms. Of course not all moms, but no matter what your child hopefully absolutely, I think no matter what type of mistake your child makes, you just always have this room to forgive. But you will never forgive a husband and you will never forgive a wife to that extent, right, right, right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you see videos online sometimes of, like her son like murdered 12 people or something. Yeah, but she's, I love you.
Speaker 2:Yes and the son's on death row in the courtroom. I love you. You're my. That's that person's child always be my baby.
Speaker 1:no matter's right. I forgive you, baby, it's okay.
Speaker 2:That's right, and I have seen some mothers who have lost their daughters or their sons to murderers forgive the murderer, because mothers and fathers know what that forgiveness is. They understand. So when people, even when people try to forgive others who have hurt them and they're not parents- yeah it's hard to teach that. It's hard to push someone to forgive, because unconditional love comes from forgiveness.
Speaker 1:To understand how to forgive so there's multiple genres of love yes, correct, there's, there's like love for your, like a mother to the. There's love for your. Profession is a different kind of love, for example, and love sometimes comes. Self-love is different.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:But when it comes to like being in love, you know I love loving someone and being in love is like you love, love. You love love, you love love, and that's enough.
Speaker 2:It's funny that you say that it is. You love, love and you love love, you love love and that's, that's enough. It is you love love and you love to love and and antique. I'll tell you something I've talked to a lot of elderly women and elderly men because I used to work in elderly home, and the elderly humans say that love comes after.
Speaker 1:That's such a you don't hang your head on that hope, though you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yes, but they say that you do First comes respect.
Speaker 1:What is it like?
Speaker 2:56% of marriages end in divorce, something like that 75% of divorces, yes, but it's mostly initiated by women.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Because women experience more negative emotions in relationships. Yeah, so look, you said 75% in divorce 75% or 76% of women divorces are initiated by women.
Speaker 1:But there's about 56% divorce rate.
Speaker 2:The actual statistic. Of that I'm not really sure, so I can't quote on that. I'm pretty sure, but I believe you, I'm pretty sure, but I believe you, I'm pretty sure, I think I TikTok something. Tiktok. Listen to the TikTok.
Speaker 1:So like 56% ending divorce, mm-hmm. And then what did they say? Roughly, maybe 15% are probably together for the kids.
Speaker 2:Do you know the leading cause of divorce?
Speaker 1:Adultery.
Speaker 2:No, what Snoring.
Speaker 1:Get out of town.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Get out of town. No, wow, how has my mom not divorced my dad? Mine too. My dad's snoring is like a workshop. There's like a workshop in the room yes, it's crazy, it's pretty intense it's scary. Sometimes you're like and then, when there's a pause, you're like what happened?
Speaker 2:that's sleep apnea. I've had sleep apnea. It's the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1:I had sleep apnea. I got my nose done. Nose done meaning like my.
Speaker 2:Septum, septum, yeah, deviated septum.
Speaker 1:But it was bad. Mine was real bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometimes food comes out of that.
Speaker 1:Sheesh Seamus at God's kitchen, Jude food. Yeah, Sometimes food comes out of that Sheesh.
Speaker 2:She must have had a cold Food. Yeah, some people have it pretty intense Sheesh.
Speaker 1:But no, I can finally breathe. My headaches went away, anxiety dropped. Yeah, it's pretty intense actually I can't believe that this is how you guys have been breathing all this time.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is. That's how it feels to breathe.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. It's crazy but that fixed that. But it had gotten to the point where I was getting sleep apnea because of it. I couldn't even shake. I'm like jump up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2:It was bad. Sleep apnea is pretty serious. It's scary. Some people stop breathing for minutes.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:I had that throughout my pregnancy.
Speaker 1:Really it was really bad Both. So both pregnancies are just recent, both because because it's so.
Speaker 2:Your belly is so big and it's pushing on all your organs so you can't breathe. Mothers go through so much.
Speaker 1:Would you have another kid?
Speaker 2:I would, If I had more help.
Speaker 1:I definitely would. You're the best.
Speaker 2:I would. I love being a mom. I think mothers have the most important job in the world. We are raising society. We are raising people who impact society, the next future, so that we have a big role, but it's underappreciated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Mothers are important. Mothers are important. I can see you have another baby. I could tell you're a hell of a mom. I try to. You've got nurturer written all over you. Oh yes.
Speaker 2:I'm very nurturing, I'm very mindful and nurturing Are you patient. Yes.
Speaker 1:Are you really patient? Yes or there's like a cutoff point.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm patient. I'm patient. My kids are good kids. I've never experienced anything like crazy from both of them. Um, they're very well behaved and I think that a mother's energy matters yeah, of course if you have, if you're very like calm, your household would be calm. But if internally you're just like duck's feet.
Speaker 1:She have a like mothers have a contagious. Yes, you know.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Like. Look at it this way you guys are all great, you're all happy, but mom walks in and she's got the face. What happens to everybody in the room?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, right, moms carry that energy.
Speaker 2:They do. You're just like should I draw something to make you?
Speaker 1:happy Mom's happy, everyone's happy Mom's sad, everyone's sad. Yeah, you're so right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we're codependent on our mothers. We're not interdependent, we're codependent, and it's such a disease. But that's just our people, ain't that something? Yeah, well, that's why a lot of marriages go through troubles, because a lot of men have a hard time separating from their mothers.
Speaker 1:And the wives hate that. I wouldn't say hate, but it's hard to cope with wives, wives, be hating that kisur sometimes, bro, especially when we're shopping, oh my god the only time I've ever seen women unhappy shopping is when they're doing their business.
Speaker 2:Do you think your partner would be a potential horse Like does she have that energy? She has what it takes. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:She's wifey material.
Speaker 2:Yay.
Speaker 1:For sure, for sure. I'm trying to figure out if I'm hubby material. Could I have some water, bro, please?
Speaker 2:Yes, you can, I told you it's not much.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can Please. I told you I'm a husband.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a husband, you should.
Speaker 1:I know one thing 100,000%, I'll make a hell of a debt. I know that. Billion percent.
Speaker 2:Antique, but to know that you're husband material. You got to be a husband to know that Right now it Right now it's kind of hard to see. It's just like saying, are we ready for? Well, you're never going to know you're ready for kids unless you have children. So I think you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself. I think that the most important Okay, you want to know what women look for in men.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you anyway.
Speaker 2:Sense of humor no just be a good person knows how to do handyman.
Speaker 1:Be a good person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, are you a good person?
Speaker 1:am I a good person?
Speaker 2:you're asking me oh yes, thank god genuinely.
Speaker 1:You're a good person I like to think I'm a good. I like to think I'm a good person. I like to think that I am a product of my parents and they're good people.
Speaker 2:Yes, so just because yes.
Speaker 1:I know whether you're a good person or not. Someone else should usually judge that, but no one knows you like you know yourself.
Speaker 2:You have a right to say no one knows you like you know yourself.
Speaker 1:And I think if there was supposed to be, it was there was going to be a category of good and bad people. I think I'd fall into the category of good, decent human beings.
Speaker 2:I tripped out. No, sometimes they move upstairs. It's an attorney's office, so they open up the filing cabinets, and it's just sometimes sorry you're, you're.
Speaker 1:Those lawyers were doing backflips right now that was not.
Speaker 2:That was not a filing cabinet.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, no, um, and I think that's thanks to my parents and that's it and I would carry that over to my kids.
Speaker 2:You know, absolutely for sure and just because sometimes you want to have moments to yourself. I think also good marriage comes from the person having a big time understanding of where you're at. I don't think that couples should change each other. I think they should change with each other.
Speaker 1:I think that's inevitable if you're with someone long enough. Yes, of course.
Speaker 2:But to also meet your partner where they're at. So if my husband and my husband's a huge introvert, by the way, huge like we're, so the opposite.
Speaker 1:And I think um he does.
Speaker 2:He loves drinking yeah, he, but that brings him that extrovertedness out where he's like laughing.
Speaker 1:That's why we drink yes.
Speaker 2:It's like a liquid courage. It's a. It is a good tool and and good tool and he's a great person, a great husband, but he's a very, very serious introvert. And this is why our marriage works, because I have a neurotic personality. I'm more of the da-da-da-da-da I talk, and he's more of like that listener.
Speaker 1:You're a good person, but you're a bad person 100%.
Speaker 2:I think you just validated my husband's feelings. That's funny. He's a very quiet person.
Speaker 1:I have a cousin who you just basically described their relationship. He's very quiet but a hell of a listener. She likes to talk and has a lot to say. It's like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2:It's like butter and bread, exactly.
Speaker 1:Is that what opposites attract? Is that a thing, I think?
Speaker 2:so, Honestly, I think that when you have two neurotic people together in a relationship, it's a mess Antique.
Speaker 1:Neurotic and meth. I saw it.
Speaker 2:Well, personality type Very like outburst-y, outgoing of negative emotions. Social butterfly bubbly, yes a lot of that, and so when you have two people like that, and. Jordan Peterson actually said this. I'm not quoting him, but he said this is why most lesbian relationships don't work out because you have two neurotic women together and it makes a sense, kind of you know, but it doesn't matter. You can have a male neurotic person and a woman.
Speaker 1:When they.
Speaker 2:When they're they clash. It creates a lot of problems because they're both very dominating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you need to have an extrovert with an introvert.
Speaker 2:It's a really good balance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In my case we're more both introverted, you know.
Speaker 2:So, but are the conversations easy? Or somebody has to push. Depends, we switch off I guess we'll make it work I guess we'll make it work. I guess we'll make it work. I can imagine. All right, what are we talking about today? Today's your turn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so how do you feel about Chikyofte?
Speaker 2:I love Chikyofte.
Speaker 1:What's your?
Speaker 2:favorite entree besides Khorovats.
Speaker 1:My favorite food in the world? Yeah, pizza, of course. Pizza is my favorite since I was a kid, and this is how I judge it Khorovats, I love. Khoshtama, I love, of course, I love, I love, love, love. But if I had one choice, one food that I could eat for the rest of my life, I would only be stuck eating one thing for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day for the rest of my life, and I won't get tired of Pizza.
Speaker 2:I love pizza. I love pizza too. My son's obsessed with pizza, but it's so bad for you. But I love it. I mean homemade pizza isn't so much.
Speaker 1:Sure, sure, but you know pizza, sometimes you just want a nice old have you been to New York.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have been to New York. You had New York pizza.
Speaker 1:I have had New York pizza, that's really good have you been to Italy. I have not been to Italy.
Speaker 2:You should have Italian pizza.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's on my to-do list. This is a good segue into something interesting I'm doing now. Maybe it might interest you, I have changed my diet completely Because of Lent.
Speaker 2:No no no, are you fasting?
Speaker 1:No, no, alcohol is the only thing I gave up. I'm not fasting, I eat clean now, only clean.
Speaker 2:What's clean?
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Clean is… as in organic pesticide-free.
Speaker 1:If the organic version of something exists, you get the organic version, but the point is it's not about what you eat. It's more about what you don't eat. And I'm about two months in, but I just don't see myself going back no fried food, no dairy, no sugars, no sodas, name it. No white bread, no white rice. You could have fish, you could have turkey, you could have lamb, or you know.
Speaker 2:Good meat.
Speaker 1:You could have, yeah, chicken, chicken is a savior are you big on red meat? At all red. No red meat at all no not really. I have up to two cheap meals a week, only to get in everything else because your body wants some red meat your body wants some dairy some carbs very little though I've lost 16 pounds in about less than two months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's beautiful, and you're doing it the healthy way.
Speaker 1:I'm doing it the healthy way, and clean eating gets boring. Yes, it does, but you know what's happened to my brain. This should interest you. You know what? My idea of perception of food has changed completely. Food is not supposed to be a pleasure, a full experience.
Speaker 2:It's not supposed to be a pleasure, a full experience. It's not supposed to be you overeat, because it tastes too good. Correct.
Speaker 1:You're full and you're still going. It's because it's tasting too good. But when I'm eating healthy, when I'm eating clean, like I had my meal, I'm done. I'm done. I might have another meal in like two hours, but it'll be a very small portion. My stomach's already shrunk and It'll be very small portion.
Speaker 2:My stomach's already shrunk and you function better too, right I?
Speaker 1:swear to God, I'm functioning like I'm 10 years younger than I am, or this whole time I was just functioning like I'm 10 years older and now I'm actually functioning like a 37-year-old, for example. I can't tell which it is, but you know they say you are what you eat, you would not believe.
Speaker 2:I know Food is medicine Antik Food. I know Food is medicine, Auntie, Food is medicine. You are what you eat and your body hates most of this stuff. Do you know your first brain? How many?
Speaker 1:brains. Do you have Two?
Speaker 2:Which one's your first one?
Speaker 1:Couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2:What's two? I love the head. What's two? What two brain Are you talking about? Left hemisphere?
Speaker 1:right hemisphere yes, no, that's one. Your gut is your is your second brain no, that's your first brain your stomach.
Speaker 2:Your stomach is your first brain I think it was oh my god, I have an uncle with a percent of serotonin created, oh, dopamine created in your gut, which is the feel-good hormone.
Speaker 1:How many percent?
Speaker 2:82, if I'm being accurate. As for adults, yes, yes, that's a big chunk of dopamine to be created in your gut.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it matters what you eat, Absolutely it does.
Speaker 1:It matters more than anything. Yes, it does More than anything, especially here.
Speaker 2:There was a clinical psychologist I was just listening to today and he was saying he lives in Europe. They didn't really expose which part of Europe he lives in, but he said anytime he's here in the US he dreads it. He's like because when he's here for two weeks for traveling purposes he gains weight. When he goes back to Europe he loses the weight and he's like in Europe I eat bread, I eat spaghetti, I eat carbs, I eat everything I eat in the United States, but for some reason in the United States he gains a lot of weight.
Speaker 1:It's like a setup to make you unhealthy.
Speaker 2:But it's inflammation, though. It's not even weight. We have so much inflammation. We have inflammation in our body, in our brain, and people think that it's weight gain and people have bone pain. It's inflammation. There's so much inflammation. It's all because of these pesticides that we consume Organic matters. It really does, of course. They've linked pesticides to so many things, even estrogen.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous what's happening in the world and just the availability of food where we live is just it's all the bad shit. It is, it's all the bad shit and you don't realize it, and it's you know. We go to a restaurant and I'm the only one. Now I'm the picky person. I never thought I'd be this person. Now I'm the. Okay, let's have that. On wheat bread Is it whole wheat?
Speaker 2:Okay, let's have it on whole wheat.
Speaker 1:I've become this person and to me everybody else looks like man.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh if they knew.
Speaker 1:You know only if they knew. Or like I'm at the bar shooting pool or something, and then the order McDonald's and I'm like bro like bro, that's not even real meat it's not it's not a burger king, not real meat anything, just even even I love in and out, but still it process, healthier process.
Speaker 2:It's processed. Period correct period it's processed.
Speaker 1:But I'd rather have that versus mcdonald's I'm giving my body of course I'm giving my body everything that and and this is what the clean approach is all only the things that it's designed to yeah break down digest correctly so imagine there's 10 employees in your stomach. Okay, when you give them like red meat and some cheese and some, like, you know how hard their job is horrible horrible it's horrible for your hormones my, my, my employees are loving me right now. Easy day Midservan, midservan.
Speaker 2:Have you ever heard of CMOS?
Speaker 1:I have heard of CMOS.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. It's changed my life.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease after my daughter. It's a thyroid condition, so nowadays women all have like bad thyroid. You either have Graves' disease or you have Hashimoto's, which means it's an autoimmune. It attacks your immune system. So I was like what am I going to do? I don't want to be on medicine for the rest of my life. I'm only 39 years old, I'm not that old. So my husband and I were researching and then we found Dr Sebi or Sebu, I think he is, but he talked about CMOS and I saw a lot of documentaries on it. But also, who was that singer? I don't want no scrub.
Speaker 1:It was a tlc tlc lisa left eye, lisa left eye, something who died in the car crash died yeah she had lupus who's, which is also an autoimmune disease.
Speaker 2:She cured herself by sea moss.
Speaker 1:So I'm like what is bad? Isn't it Very bad, it's fatal right, I think.
Speaker 2:It can be. It can be. So I was researching it and I see that sea moss I mean it carries literally like 95 minerals which our body needs about 102 of it. So I've been taking sea moss and I found an amazing girl who makes it from St Lucia, the Caribbean. She brings it here and she sells it to like Erewhon markets and all that. It's amazing. Just a tablespoon. My energy, my brain fog everything.
Speaker 2:Incredibly, and I actually have her coming on to talk about it as a guest. Spirulina, I think it's called moringa. All of those things are super, super powerful.
Speaker 1:So I believe that things like that definitely heal the gut. That's cool For sure.
Speaker 2:Such a good conversation.
Speaker 1:I got to try it. I'll send you some information on it, research it. Please do Let me know where I can get it. It's really good I'm going to look into. Let me know where I can get it.
Speaker 2:It's really good, I'll take it. It's cured cancer. Wow, it's cured cancer. It's crazy. There's a lot of things out there. It's just not really exposed or you just have to be like super, like you know, into that to research it and find out, which I don't think a lot of people are conscious or aware of that, but as mothers I think it's important to know and you know when you take care of yourself, which I have not done at all throughout my life.
Speaker 1:I'm happy that you're doing that, or, if I have, it's been for a very short period of time and then go back.
Speaker 2:But I feel like this is like… you just need 60 days. If you be consistent for 60 days, then it's a routine.
Speaker 1:I'm already used to it.
Speaker 2:There you go, I'm cooking my own food.
Speaker 1:I'm, you know I'm staying on top of it. You know what it's done for me more than anything, is when you know you're doing everything right for your body, you don't worry about sickness. And yes, it means just in certain sense like if, whenever you're doing everything wrong, you're like what am I kind of getting myself into? You know you feel like you're responding. I mean, you're like with, like with the diverticulitis. So like.
Speaker 1:I clearly did it to myself, but you healed yourself right now I don't worry about anything health related, nothing, because I know I'm doing everything right. I don't smoke cigarettes, I'm I wasn't drinking. I'll be back to drinking now, oh my god but I definitely want to keep it under control.
Speaker 1:But it's not something for me psychologically where I'm like, okay, now I'm, I'm giving my body all the good stuff I'm taking care of my only only you know top shelf food. So when you know you're doing everything right, you don't worry about nothing else in my rest in god's hands yeah, that I think that men need to do better job taking care of themselves.
Speaker 2:Because you guys are so well, you guys are so important for today's world, I think that men are not really appreciated nowadays. I agree, um, because of all this feminism stuff that you know yeah, they're coming from all angles on there are, you know, like oh, we don't need men, oh, we absolutely do. And I think fathers are not appreciated as much. Young men are not appreciated as much.
Speaker 2:You guys are so important and you are the reason why we do all these things. Like we're sitting here because a man decided to build this building. We're sitting here because a man decided to record here.
Speaker 1:Protect this woman.
Speaker 2:We're sitting here because you decided to, you know.
Speaker 1:Grow a beard. Grow a beard, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:You know, grow some guts and courage to get out on stage and make people happy. So men are definitely not as appreciated as as they should be nowadays.
Speaker 1:So you guys, deserve all the respect in the world. I speak. I speak for all men when I say we love the hell out of you guys. Thanks for bringing us into the world, and we'll wash one of you guys from all the evils and difficulties. It's vice versa. Yeah Well, it's been good.
Speaker 2:It has. I think we've had a pretty interesting conversation. What are we at? An hour and a half 50 minutes? It seems like forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Wow, we went by so much random stuff, it felt like but I think it was interesting, random stuff. Yeah, yeah, it was good, it was meaningful things and I think people are going to connect. This was chill. This was chill.
Speaker 2:So what would you tell the younger generation who are wanting to be comedians and are into comedy? What advice would you give?
Speaker 1:them? Honestly? No, I'm just kidding comedians and are into comedy. What advice would you give them?
Speaker 2:Honestly.
Speaker 1:No, I'm just kidding. Um, comedy is not. It's like a lot of comedians say if I could do anything else, I would, but this is what you do. You know, you know, you know if you're a comedian, you yeah, I say that honestly.
Speaker 2:I say you know, know, when you're a therapist, you're born.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. But see, maybe, like 15 years ago, I would have given different advice, although I was on the community 15 years ago. But with social media you can really get to places. It's right there for you. These TikTok algorithms, these Instagram algorithms it's like you have a chance. You have a chance. If you have something original, it's going to pop up and with with the benefit of the device, you have to try it. Like if I never tried it, I would have never known for sure. You know, if I, or if my like, if my, my Apple MacBook at the time didn't come with garage band, I wouldn't know that I could even produce music. So you have the possibility to try it. You know, whatever it is, and if you're not funny, give up. Bro, the worst thing about trying to become a comedian is people aren't going to tell you you're not funny. You have to figure out if you're funny or not.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean and you did well, people laugh something but eventually, a few years later, you learn. You learn the fake laughs from the real ones, like if you sit down in your family and tell them jokes. Sometimes you can tell, can you tell us a joke?
Speaker 2:no, are they all bad? We have a lot of good shorts, I think. I don't know, I'm going to be confused.
Speaker 1:She's been laughing the whole time. Asma, could you tell me a joke? I don't know what to say Antik.
Speaker 2:by the way, do you go on events and stuff? If people want to invite you to their event to perform, Do you do that? Private events type of thing Depends, depends.
Speaker 1:Probably not. I've never seen you, probably not I'm picky, I'm picky, I say it.
Speaker 2:As you should be. You earned that pickiness, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, no, there's, you know, I'll do sometimes small little, I'll attend small shows that I didn't organize just to and without maybe like not even promoting it or anything just to try some new material or whatnot, or you know be in and out of there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I like the big shows, I like you catching up with my life over the last, what happened for two years.
Speaker 2:So we have a new show coming up. You're saying New show coming up.
Speaker 1:You're writing New show coming up. I won't even tell you the title yet, but it's going to be a good show.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's going to be a good show. Wow, it's going to be a good show. Is it going to?
Speaker 1:be here, not out of the country, right? No, it'll start here, los Angeles, maybe Pasadena, we'll see.
Speaker 2:Wow, so how soon are we looking?
Speaker 1:September, probably September.
Speaker 2:That's literally months away. Yeah, yeah Is it hard to write.
Speaker 1:It's very hard to write. Is that? Is that why you go disappear for like three days two?
Speaker 2:days, three days, as you're saying, a month. I disappear for a month because you're you're processing your thinking creative side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess. I guess that's why I disappear. You're really concerned about my disappearance.
Speaker 2:She's coming back to this, oh okay thank you for coming, so why are you thank? You for coming and then we go back. I have I have.
Speaker 1:I'm very. I'd rather post nothing than post mediocre stuff. I'd rather yes but? But then the algorithm, their pressure to post, is real too, you know so I know if you're with social media, you feel like you're falling behind.
Speaker 2:So quick yes and that ruins you.
Speaker 1:So sometimes I like to specifically get away from it, just until things naturally come to me because writing and you were asking me, how is it to write? Like I said, I've written three one hour specials until now and I still couldn't tell you that process, the writing process, and what it was like. My writing process happens on my phone throughout. Right now.
Speaker 2:Something funny might happen right up, right down a note well, did you experience anything funny that happened that you'd want to use in your comedy show?
Speaker 1:so I can be like it's me yeah, like armenian girl who's been a bridesmaid only twice and we wonder why I'm kidding. There she is. Most comedians will tell you like the, the, everything, like your notepad, which is on my phone really right now. That's where all the magic happens. But then it's like show. Now I have a show books. It'll sit down and then all the ideas for something funny that happens, someone says something, whatever, and then I'll glue those all together and I'll create a puzzle with them.
Speaker 1:As I'm going along and create a theme, give it a that's amazing I but I still couldn't tell you how it works do you ever pick on the audience members? That is the best it is the best, but it's you. I wouldn't do a whole show of it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean no, but like a small verse, because it's really funny of course I like.
Speaker 1:I enjoy doing it a lot and people do too. I enjoy doing it a lot, but I also, like I don't want to I kind of don't want to be mean to anyone. You know what I mean, especially if they're Armenians. They're your fans, like. The first two roles are sponsors for example, humor is kind of getting lost in people no, but I think in Assata Sincha, like I'll include people in the joke and stuff, but I don't think I would roast them are you good at roasting?
Speaker 1:yeah, if I have to be my son loves roasting, yeah, and he's really good if I went to like a comedy club or like just random people sitting there, it's different. But, like, these are my fans, these are my people, these are people who've been supporting me since day one. They paid money to come see my show. Don't move the Vatskas on them, why, why, I get it.
Speaker 2:There's been laughs, though, like I've messed around with the crowd a little bit, but I I try not to cross that line because you know they're your peoples.
Speaker 1:I know, auntie, have you done any podcasts before I have a podcast? I just coming on. Season two will begin this summer. I have a season one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was are you gonna do it with guests or yourself?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah with guests. No, I, I've already done this before am I a guest? Of course you're a guest are you in love?
Speaker 2:I think that was the worst question I asked you went in too quick.
Speaker 1:The camera stopped rolling, so I could say that was a horrible question.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I know I'm kidding. I'm kidding the guy's like bro, he's like hurry up. I was kidding, bro, that wasn't an horrible question I think people want to see this personal side too. You know, I hope I brought it out because you did you.
Speaker 1:You gave some really good we dove in a bit, yes, a bit, a little bit.
Speaker 2:We got into the old like depression stuff, difficulties of our mind do you feel like you still have depression?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no, no, I don't, I don't have depression it's like hurry up. No, no, no. Now that I know what it is, I know I'll know when you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and yes, but I'm very alert, I'm so sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1:I'm very alert alert on people that I know who are acting funny. I can sense that they're I, I can sense they're going through something and I I move in and kind of you know, yeah, and I feel like I've been through it to be able to do that for people, because I'm a very like see, if someone's having a problem, help them. I have it in my dna so if I can be helpful, you know that god's using me for some, some great and he is.
Speaker 2:You're doing god's work. I hope so. This is your meaning I hope so.
Speaker 1:It's almost eas meaning. I hope so. It's almost Easter. Talking about God.
Speaker 2:I know Well, you're done with Lent. Almost. It's your last day. Tomorrow you can eat and drink and do whatever you want again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, thank you With a new balance of drinking, can't drink every night Exactly Smarter way. Especially being so fit Like look at these guns, bro. I'm just kidding, there's no guns here.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:You're so awesome.
Speaker 2:So are you.
Speaker 1:I wish all the success in the world for your podcast. You're the perfect person to be doing this. We need this in the community. You're great.
Speaker 2:Really yeah. Thank you, antik John, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I like the setup. It's good.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brain up there soon, but thank you guys for watching.
Speaker 1:Yes, a beautiful, we can end it um. Yes, I have a bye.