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The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast
Welcome to "The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast," the podcast where insightful conversations unfold, and the depth of the human mind is explored. In each episode, I sit down with a diverse range of individuals—thinkers, innovators, and captivating personalities—who share their unique insights and experiences. Together, we embark on a journey of discovery, unraveling the complexities of the human psyche and uncovering the untold truths that influence our thoughts, emotions, and behaviors.
The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast
Reza Jackson | Comedy, Modern Dating, Middle Eastern Family | The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast #19
Ever wondered how the intricacies of Middle Eastern family dynamics blend with the art of comedy? Join us as we sit down with the incredibly talented comedian Reza, whose reels have captivated audiences with their hilarious yet heartfelt depictions of family life. Reza takes us on a journey through his career, starting from family gatherings where he showcased his knack for impressions. You won't want to miss his live Michael Jackson dance performance that had us all in stitches!
But it's not all fun and games; we delve into deeper discussions about the emotional benefits of therapy and the importance of acts of service and kindness. We tackle the often overlooked topic of societal expectations placed on men by the new generation of women, and the psychological aspects of dealing with discomfort. Through Reza's personal stories and heartwarming anecdotes, we emphasize the importance of addressing disagreements promptly in Middle Eastern families to avoid long-term conflicts and estrangements.
To wrap things up, we explore the world of modern dating, the transformative concept from "The Big Leap," and the joy that comes from helping others. Reza humorously recounts his dating disasters and sheds light on the challenges millennials face with dating apps and shifting gender roles. From morning routines to heartwarming football stories, this episode is a rollercoaster of emotions that promises to leave you entertained and enlightened. Don’t miss out on an episode filled with laughter, wisdom, and memorable dance moves!
every single human being can benefit from a therapist, especially the ones that think they're good. You know, I'm good. I don't need a therapist Like what. You don't need to have a problem or have something wrong with you to talk to a therapist.
Speaker 2:You're a parent and you struggle and there's things that there's obstacles you experience and wow, like, what a wonderful thing that they've done is to never let you feel that pain. Wow, you guys. And it's those acts of service, acts of kindness. When you do have a client comes in with severe, like depression or, you know, anxieties or panics or whatever disorder, usually those kinds of approaches help them to heal, because helping other people heal you in a way.
Speaker 1:This new generation of women expect a man who makes more money, who's smarter than them, and unfortunately the reality is there's not that much supply of men that fit these categories or requirements that this larger group of women want.
Speaker 2:Reza. Hello Hi, thank you so much for being here today.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:Of course, I'm so honored to be here with you. I've been following your work for such a long time. I think I started following you from this one amazing reel you did on how my dad met my mom, and it was the Middle Eastern version.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, yes, it was exaggerated. Yes, very loosely based on real events.
Speaker 2:But it's so tastefully done. I think that every Middle Eastern individual connected so much to that video. I mean, I was just laughing for days and I was showing my mom, my dad, so anyway, that's how I found you and I've been really admiring your reels and like the way you naturally make people laugh. Thank you, have you always been like a funny person? Is this naturally?
Speaker 1:you. I. I don't know if I've always been a funny person or like a comedian, but I've definitely always been. I'm an only child, so I've kind of been like the center of attention in the family, but I've always been the one entertaining. I'll give you an example, because you're bringing back a memory. This was not prepared.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I remember when I was a kid I used to watch all my aunts and how they dance.
Speaker 2:How many aunts do you have?
Speaker 1:Three. Well, on the mom's side, yeah, that's particularly the side that we have a lot more drama or humor that we can lean on um. So I remember when I was a kid I used to go on like at family parties, go on stage, like in front of the family, and do impressions of my mom, her sisters, the husbands, and like they're different, like, and everybody would laugh. So, yeah, and I used to like, till this he's like. Reza come and do the Michael Jackson one. So yeah, I have.
Speaker 2:He legit told you to come do the Michael Jackson like at events as a 34-year-old adult. He still does you still do that?
Speaker 1:And I still deliver.
Speaker 2:So, since you do the Michael Jackson version, can you do one right now?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Where do you want me to do it? Here, like here, like sitting down, no music, raw you want me to play music?
Speaker 2:play a little, I can't get up we can't turn the cameras around.
Speaker 1:Can I do it here? Yeah?
Speaker 2:I'm so. I want to see this live hold on you all ready for a show.
Speaker 1:What am I? Putting Michaelson what you know what you play, whatever your heart tells you, but I can smooth criminal uh no, that's a little too. Too much for this little movement.
Speaker 2:Put on billy james billy, joe billy, james billy, you guys are ready hold. Should I leave this? Leave it, wow, you guys. Oh my God, oh my god. And this is where the ladies are like oh my god, you guys got literally High five on that. That was so awesome, thank you. Look at what you guys get to see the live Michael Jackson version. That was so awesome, thank you. Look at what you guys get to see the live Michael Jackson version. That was so good. Where'd you learn to dance like that?
Speaker 1:first of all, it's in the blood. My love, it's in the blood. Does your dad dance like this? My dad does not dance like Michael Jackson. Which side do?
Speaker 2:you take Mom's side.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're using your auntie's Drink some water.
Speaker 2:Thank you, gotta work so your aunties.
Speaker 1:Yes, what about them?
Speaker 2:You said they dance.
Speaker 1:They dance. Yes, that's so cool.
Speaker 2:You know this is so interesting. I've always found, like Persians in general, you guys are so phenomenally close as family. What do you think you guys are doing right that, like you guys are this close? But you know, what can other people learn from you guys? Because there's this closeness, there's this infinite respect and love for one another. I don't know if there's boundaries, but you know, coming from like a Persian, armenian background, we don't have a lot of boundaries in our family, so everyone's in each other's lives all the time. Everybody knows about each other. But what do you think like makes a really good foundation of a family? What is your family doing different?
Speaker 1:That's a good question. Family is in when you say family like my parents or like everyone in my family.
Speaker 2:Like, I guess, like your mom with her sisters and how close they are, or your dad with their brothers, like there's just no separation. Everybody is just so in love with each other in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How do you think that foundation is maintained?
Speaker 1:I mean, this is the first time I've had to think about this question. To give you, like, a proper answer.
Speaker 2:Welcome to my podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which might not be completely factual or 100%, but I think a lot of it has to do with ego. I think you'll learn to put your ego to the side a little bit more with your family. Really, really, no, not really. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think some Middle Eastern families have a lot of ego.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But at least I've found in my family. There's more, there isn't really. I've seen a few instances where, like, brothers don't talk.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Purely due to ego. They won't admit it. But it's like their pride right, which is like a weakness, I think of our culture, like that pride man of the house vibe, but what I've seen in my close family, that that hasn't happened wow that's been put to the side, and so, by taming the ego as much as possible, I think it provides room to like get over silly fights because, at the end of the day, you're sisters. Who cares what she said about this?
Speaker 2:Like I miss you.
Speaker 1:So, I think, just a continued conversation throughout the years and not allowing for too much of a gap between disagreements, because I think if you just wait too long to talk, then you'll end up not talking for years.
Speaker 2:That's so true, like you mean like talk about the issue right away, don't, because sometimes families do let that linger.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Instead of like hashing it out and trying to like conflict resolution right, as we call it, they let it linger and that's why people depart Like they fall apart like that, yes, so like what I've seen and what I feel like I've learned and looked up to throughout my childhood, like let me explain who I am and then I think that'll please that'll unpack and give you sort of um, give you a better understanding or context as to what my parents are.
Speaker 1:I, when I get in a fight, like I can't, I can't hold a grudge, like I have to deal with it right away, like, and I don't, like something happens, I'm not going to not be friends with someone forever just because of this one thing. Like I can't handle it, like I have to talk, figure it out. If I have to apologize, I'll apologize, apologize, it doesn't matter. Yeah, um, and I think I've seen that when I watch my mom, for example, with her sisters like there's all this drama and they're all in iran, so it's just like it's always like that yeah, what family doesn't have that right?
Speaker 1:but they're. They're like her sisters are more dramatic, for example, and she's like the therapists. She is the therapist to these sisters, like trying to get them together. And I've noticed my mom even if she does get upset and has a grudge, she wouldn't hold it because she it hurts her, so she's like forget it, like I'm gonna make up and, and you know, call my sister again. So I think it's because of that behavior and the fact that my mom didn't hold grudges over the years compared to her sisters, that's made me the person that I am and that answers your first question of what's the secret sauce. I think that's the secret sauce within my family I can't say within everyone's.
Speaker 2:You know Middle Eastern family. That's so beautiful because usually you know there's this thing in psychology. They say it's really people have to learn to sit with other people's discomforts and that's a really difficult thing to do when you know that the person in front of you and you are in argument with each other. But then you have to be OK with their discomfort. What I'm hearing you say that that was not, that, that wasn't the sauce in the family. It's if there is a discomfort, don't sit with the discomfort. Figure it out, like talk about it, which you've learned to do. That that's what makes you have such successful relationships with people.
Speaker 1:I would tend to think so yeah, that's beautiful. I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 2:Would you say that you've had a happy childhood or a difficult childhood, because you said you were an only child 100% happy childhood.
Speaker 1:I mean I think, if you like, unpack it. I have a therapist now and she's like you know. You don't have to go through something super serious to have trauma in your life. Like everyone has trauma, whether the trauma is. Your dad was late every day because he was working really hard to put food on the table. Like that is a form of trauma. But I definitely had a happy childhood. I mean, a lot of the things that we went through at the time I didn't notice or feel any of the quote unquote discomfort, whereas when I look at it in retrospect and look at like what my parents went through when we first moved here, my dad was delivering pizza for a dollar an hour, even though he was like a senior engineer back in Iran. Like that probably to him at that time was very painful, right, but they never transferred that pain to me.
Speaker 1:I felt like I was living my best life. I didn't notice or feel any of that discomfort.
Speaker 2:That is good parenting right there, Because it's really difficult to keep that transfer. You know you're a parent and you struggle and there's obstacles. You experience and wow, like what a wonderful thing that they've done is to never let you feel that pain. That's why you are, I mean like when I see you, when I see your, your energy, you're just genuinely such a joyful person. You're naturally, you're very happy. You, I don't know, Do you, do you even get angry? Do you get?
Speaker 1:angry. What's your angry?
Speaker 2:Naturally, you're just such a like joyful person. I can't imagine like how you're angry.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm going to get angry right now. I'm going to show you Angry. Yeah, I've been upset, I've been. I definitely get angry, I think generally, I tend to try to be more positive and I think I have a really good routine that sets me up for that, but there's a time that I recharge. You want to know the routine Of course.
Speaker 2:I mean. If there's a secret to happiness and something successful there, people would love to know that. Why not? Okay, Teach us.
Speaker 1:Routine. I'll tell you I go to sleep at 9.30 to 10 pm. Amen to that, use my aura ring, shout out, sponsor me. It tracks your sleep. So this helps me, like, really understand what are the triggers Let me get that ring.
Speaker 1:It's because you can actually keep it on like Apple Watch. You might take it off at night. It's just uncomfortable. But the reason why I like this so much is it just helps you measure your sleep, to understand what are your personal triggers and interruptions in your sleep, so that you could start iterating and get to that like perfect formula of like how can I set myself up for the perfect sleep? Because I truly believe that your sleep is the determinant of everything else that happens in the day.
Speaker 2:Why do you think that Were you taught that or you just naturally felt that?
Speaker 1:I feel it. You feel it Like when I get good sleep. My ability to handle micro problems without getting anxiety is exceptional.
Speaker 2:Wow, just on good eight hours of sleep. Good, eight hours, yeah, seven to nine, so eight hours that is wonderful because when you look at your reels, you wouldn't tell that this is a man that goes to bed at 9.30. You know you come off kind of like a party animal on Instagram I am a party animal.
Speaker 1:I do it all baby, so it's fabulous. But weekdays. This is my routine for weekdays Monday through Friday. Yeah, Saturdays are not. So 9.30, you're in bed 9.30, well, 9, I'm in bed An hour. I try to watch something. Friends whatever, maybe read like 10 minutes of a book to wind down Sleep, wake up at 6, between 6 and 6.30, do my bed. I've been doing my bed every day for like the last Isn't it change your life? 15 years.
Speaker 2:I would not feel normal if I didn't do my bed. Can you help our audience with this? Because this is, you know, when I was working in private practice so I'm a family therapist right when I was working for a private practice, this was the first thing that I would tell my clients, like if you have depression, if you have anxiety, whatever you're struggling with, the first thing you should do every day is make your bed. It just sets the tone for a positive, more accurate day. Do you think that's what it does for you?
Speaker 1:A hundred percent, I mean, I would even take it further. I think it's. The original clip is from some military guy who's doing a speech, I think.
Speaker 2:David Goggins. That's the one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's what made it famous? I think the whole like making your bed thing and military does that Moms did, but okay. Moms did made it famous.
Speaker 2:I think the whole like making your bed thing, and military does that but okay, moms did, yeah, but nobody, but nobody acknowledges our persian, armenian moms, or persian moms, you know if you see my bed, it's like it's pristine.
Speaker 1:By pristine I mean like the edges are tucked in. You go into it at night. I have a sheet under the duvet cover important sheet. If you don't have sheets, yes, like I'm talking about, like a fitted sheet and then a sheet on the duvet cover, important sheet you should do a video on that.
Speaker 1:If you don't have sheets, yes, tell them. I'm talking about like a fitted sheet and then a sheet on top, yes, and then the duvet cover. If you don't have the sheet in between, you're doing something wrong and you're cheating the system. Okay.
Speaker 2:And yourself.
Speaker 1:By myself and yourself, yes, by myself. No. If somebody tries to help me do my bed, yeah, it's like. It's like get out of the kitchen, get out of the room, get out of the room like you're not doing it right, you're actually making it do you have a dust vacuum?
Speaker 1:I just ordered one no, but you're making me fomo a little bit. Okay, I'll be honest. I'm the type of guy that, like, everything on the outside looks perfect but, like when you open up the drawers, it's not very organized inside the drawers how do you live like that? Because it looks amazing on. It's only what the eye can see.
Speaker 2:I hear you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if it looks good, then it feels good. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:But yes, I think doing your bed not only sets you up for the day, but I think it's number one. The first thing you do when you wake up is accomplish something and then, whatever happens throughout your day whatever happens negative, positive, oftentimes, a lot of negative you know that when you come back home and when you come back to bed, you're going into the nice beautiful bed that you made. So it's your last little pat on the back, no matter how shitty your day is, you know that you're going home to a bed that's perfectly made and ready to tuck you in.
Speaker 2:Why do you think that's validating for you?
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's, it sounds like a validating.
Speaker 2:It sounds like that to me. I don't know, maybe it's not for you.
Speaker 1:You really are a therapist, aren't you Picking up the vocab that I'm using? I don't know if it's. There might be some element of validation. I there might be some element of validation.
Speaker 2:I think it has more. Yes, but why would you do it if it wasn't right? It's serving you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I did this kind of thing Like.
Speaker 2:I made my bed. I did this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, you're making it sound very ego-driven, I, but you're making me think twice. Is it the ego? Am I a bad person?
Speaker 2:Oh, that you're not.
Speaker 1:For sure. Okay great. But yeah, long story short, it makes me feel good. I make my bed. I make my bed, Jesus, Don't go into my childhood trauma. It's just a bed. It's just a bed with beautiful sheets 10,000 pounds.
Speaker 2:Where do you get your?
Speaker 1:sheets. They didn't pay me, so I don't know if I should shout them out.
Speaker 2:If they didn't pay, you don't do it.
Speaker 1:It's okay, edited, pay me. I love you. You're the funniest guy ever. I better get some brand deals out of this. We came all the way from West Hollywood to burbank. Just kidding, wasn't that far pay?
Speaker 2:him and me and her and them you're such a joyful person. Oh my goodness. See like look how easy this conversation's going you were worried.
Speaker 1:I was not.
Speaker 2:I mean well, no, the reality is that thing that I just watched, reza, which one. It was this OnlyFans girl and it was a podcaster. And then after every word she's like mmm.
Speaker 1:Was it with Pillow Talk? That's my voice podcast.
Speaker 2:He's like why do you after every sentence go, mmm?
Speaker 1:He said that I love that.
Speaker 2:And she's like I don't say mmm, it's like I went and I got tea today. It's just horrible. Anywho, where were we, you guys?
Speaker 1:We were at the very beginning of my morning routine.
Speaker 2:But this is what happens when you sit next to Reza. It's just so natural.
Speaker 1:She's going tangents.
Speaker 2:It's like you know funny, we were in the childhood, that's where we were. You said you had a great childhood.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, we were in the routine.
Speaker 2:We were in the routine, and then we just stopped at the bed.
Speaker 1:There's tons of shit that happens after. Talk to me, okay, about my dark, dark secrets.
Speaker 2:I think your audience would want to know. Sure, I mean, like you said you were seeing a therapist. Do you want to? Are you comfortable talking about?
Speaker 1:why yeah?
Speaker 2:Because that's very beautiful. I believe in therapy. I think first of all, it's a noble job, career not a job, noble career, job. But also I think it's very courageous for men and women to seek help, because our people we're not really that fond of therapists just yet. I think we're coming around to it. But when I hear a Middle Eastern going for therapy, I'm like yes, oh my God, she changed my life.
Speaker 1:I love it. Yes, praise her.
Speaker 2:I'm sure she's going to watch this.
Speaker 1:She can't take any more clients, by the way, so don't praise her. I'm sure she's going to watch this. She can't take any more clients, by the way, so don't you know.
Speaker 2:Don't go to. Yeah, she's full, she's full, yes.
Speaker 1:I have enough problems for the world. I'm just joking.
Speaker 2:Awesome. So tell us like how did she change your life? You said, she changed my life.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think first thing I want to flag with the whole notion of going to a therapist. I don't think you need to have a SOS sign on top of your head, huge emergency to like need to. You're not going to the emergency for a therapist.
Speaker 1:Yes, in some cases for sure, but I think that every single human being can benefit from a therapist, especially the ones that think they're good. You know, I'm good. I don't need a therapist, like you, don't need to have a problem or have something wrong with you to talk to a therapist. The therapist will just enable you to be able to unlock all the potential that you probably haven't tapped, and I'll give you one really good example that will probably resonate as like one big takeaway, and it's actually based on a book called the big leap. Have you heard of it?
Speaker 1:no so the big leap is about how we live in different zones there's four zones zones of zone of incompetence, which is like you trying to fix a car like a mechanic. That's not your thing, you're gonna fail miserably, you're gonna get annoyed.
Speaker 1:Zone of competence, which is like admin work, doing emails. Yes, you can do it. It's not fun, it's not particularly exciting. A lot of people can do it. There's zone of excellence, which is where most of us sit. For example, you're doing your podcasting or you're doing your daytime job and you're great at it. It's almost like a comfort zone. This is something you're excellent in. But there's another zone called zone of genius, and the big leap is going from your zone of excellence to your zone of genius.
Speaker 1:And what happens is we subconsciously prevent ourselves from going into the zone of genius because of something called your upper limit problem. What does that mean? I'll give you a very tactical example. Let's say you win a big deal at work and then a day later something in your personal life happens. You get into a fight with your boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever, and then you come back down to that frequency. And the reason we do that subconsciously is because we're used to living in a state of not abundance, not pure positivity. And so the whole thesis of this book is like you can live in a state of abundance, which is your zone of genius, if you just become aware of these things that are happening subconsciously and work towards overcoming it.
Speaker 1:And so I went up to her one day and we were just chatting. She's like what's up? I'm like's up. I'm like, oh, I'm in sales, by the way, that's my full-time job nine to five. I was like man, like I'm struggling and I love the struggle like this. This game is about struggling and I'm just grinding and grinding. I'll you know I'm gonna crush it soon, just struggling. And she's like reza. She's, she's italian, she's like reza.
Speaker 1:I've heard you say struggle like 10 times, like well, kick out. So like what? What happened? Why? Why? You say struggle. I'm like I don't know. I mean like it's the hustle, like struggling, that's like that's what it should be. She's like, yeah, because you're keep saying that story in your head struggle, struggle, struggle. She's like I encourage you to flip the script and just imagine that all these deals would just land on your lap. Imagine if there was a world, if things were easy. And I want you to tell that story in your head. And so we started this practice of manifesting of me actually every morning imagining, okay, this client's going to sign this contract and I imagine it to like the degree of seeing it in our Slack channels, like really feeling it and like manifesting is not, like I'm not going to manifest something that's completely out of reach. I'm not going to say tomorrow I'm going to be in a $50 million house Of course.
Speaker 1:It has to feel right, and as soon as I started making these changes of believing that things can be easy and abundant, it literally started happening like that.
Speaker 2:Just by believing in it.
Speaker 1:Just by not being so negative by default.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think we're all just kind of, unfortunately, low-key, negative by default.
Speaker 2:Where do you think that is stemming from? I mean?
Speaker 1:I think it's stemming from how we were raised, like, if you take me, for example, if you look at my parents, and it's not like they're doing it intentionally, yeah, but like you know, reza, it's a tough world out there. You know, we moved here, we didn't know English, we had to learn like I had to work this job for a dollar an hour. Like you, we get fed this information that to achieve a high level of success, there's a lot of struggle and pain. And I'm not saying you don't need to work. You can not work hard and achieve big things but I think it's just a switch in an abundance mindset versus a zero sum mindset.
Speaker 2:That's so powerful Just because it was that mindset for them doesn't mean that that's your mindset. And a lot of these mindsets that we've picked up is think, learned behavior, in a way, Like we've watched our parents say these things and act out these and naturally we've learned them, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's ours, Like we can literally change that. And that's exactly what you're saying. That's powerful, so that's that's. Do you feel like that's that's worked for you? Obviously so that's that's.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like that's that's worked for you? Obviously, yeah. So I mean that was probably one of the like, more like tipping points. I had the therapist Reza relationship where I was like, holy shit, like we're on to something, like this is insane, like and I didn't come into it. Being like, oh my God, I went through this super traumatic experience. Like I need therapy help. Like she helped me uncover something that I didn't know was a problem and unlocking that has opened the door, mentally speaking, to many, many things. I mean there's certainly that you cannot debate this. There's certainly a different vibe when you go about your day, genuinely like feeling positive and things are going to happen and this is going to go according to plan, but just not attaching it, like having attachments. If you remove the attachments because, yeah, of course sometimes you're not going to get the deal, but if you just trust this is what she always says she's like just trust, trust, like there's a woman upstairs that's like doing things, just trust her.
Speaker 2:A woman.
Speaker 1:She calls it a woman.
Speaker 2:Anyway, oh, got it, okay Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, like just the universe.
Speaker 2:I was like wait the wise lady she calls it.
Speaker 1:She's also very spiritual. It's not super clinical, but it's very interesting, Like when I wasn't doing well at work. She's like Reza, maybe you're not doing well at work because that's not your path. Maybe you're not supposed to do well. You're supposed to get fired and because you get fired, it forces you to go into hustle mode and you find another job that ends up being the exact job that you wanted. You don't know, just trust what's happening.
Speaker 2:That's very true.
Speaker 1:Stop worrying about the future and the past.
Speaker 2:This control that we have? Do you feel like you have? Are you controlling?
Speaker 1:For sure, that's actually the first thing we talked about in therapy.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Because I was like I can't. You know my tactical problem that I'm looking to solve. She's like so what's up? Like, what do you want to talk about I'm looking to solve? She's like so what's up? Like, what do you want to talk about? I'm like sleeping. I find that it's hard for me to get to bed at night. She's like well, do you think it might be because you sleeping is like a kind of a form of death and letting go of control? Like, are you? I think that that's the problem. I think you're not comfortable letting go of control, because when you're awake, you're able to control everything. You're planning, you're scheming, and then, when you're going to bed, if you continue to scheming and planning and thinking about this, then the other, that's what's keeping you up at night.
Speaker 2:And the anxiety around that. It's insane, like it's. Every other person I know is struggling with anxiety right now.
Speaker 1:Classic.
Speaker 2:Like I. I swear to God I don't know a single person that doesn't have it. But I think that anxiety serves us such a good purpose. You know, I think we just have to like, listen to it, and it's hard to tell somebody who has that anxiety to accept it. Sometimes they don't know what that acceptance means. They'll eventually find it, but it's certainly my anxiety serves me a purpose. I think it does question your morality in a way too. Do you feel like your anxiety serves you a purpose?
Speaker 1:Yeah, by the way, speaking of anxiety, where are the?
Speaker 2:other water bottles. You want water you promised there was three.
Speaker 1:I'm done.
Speaker 2:Can we have water?
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, drink a lot of water.
Speaker 2:It's very important. Drink a lot of water. There you go. Thank you so much, sponsored by Trader Joe's, I actually had a wonderful goddamn water, and I had a girl who brought water that says edgy oliverdian podcast on it, but we're out of that one, so we have oh, no, yeah, I was gonna bring my um you have a stanley here, it's actually fake stanley, it's hydro flask.
Speaker 1:Pay me seriously, I can't keep throwing these brand names around. Jesus, like you know that. You know what that means. What people that like I know what like it's kind of like poro but it's like someone who, like, never like pays the bill and like lets other people pay, like oh my god, it is a move yeah, pay him. You're so funny uh, what was your serious question? Anxiety? Yeah, does it serve me?
Speaker 2:does it serve you? I mean, it does serves me for sure. It humbles me for sure. Oh my god, it humbles me I mean, I think there's.
Speaker 1:I think there's good anxiety and I think there's bad anxiety, with the good being the one that serves me. I think there's a healthy level of anxiety and it's our relationship with anxiety. So, like I'll give you an example, I learned this one from a TED Talk where, when we feel let's use public speaking as an example, when we're about to go speak, our heart is racing.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And that's anxiety, that's the feeling of anxiety. But if you flip the script on how you receive these physical reactions, it's actually preparing you to be able to speak louder, to be bolder, and so I don't think anxiety is going to go away. I think what's in your control which ultimately liberates us as humans is the fact that we're in control in terms of how we view anxiety. So, if I view it as something positive, that's happening before, like the other day, I closed a really big deal and my boss was like how do you feel? I'm like excited and nervous.
Speaker 2:Which is the same symptom, which?
Speaker 1:is the same thing. So it's a good thing. When you're feeling nervous and you got butterflies, it's a good thing, so flip the script and use it towards your advantage. There's also like a lighter form of anxiety which exists throughout your day, like almost every other second, every other second, which is what you know, quite admittedly, like the fire under your ass to get that project done before the end of the day, to make the three extra calls. Whatever it is that you're in business, whether you're a mother, I don't know you have a little anxiety that, like you, might be late to pick up your kids, so it makes you cook faster. So, like those are healthy levels of anxiety, I think, when it becomes-.
Speaker 1:Debilitating exactly that's when it becomes a challenge. But I mean, I'm in no position as a therapist to diagnose. I think you are.
Speaker 2:I think you look like sometimes experience makes you a therapist too. It's not always like career, but naturally, like you know, when you go through a lot in life, you just become more wise and you give great advice. You are very empathetic, like you can support and comfort and that's beautiful. I mean, like I'm sure if someone's struggling they can come to you and you would probably just naturally comfort them I'm getting better at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a skill, right it's?
Speaker 2:a muscle you build.
Speaker 1:Because it's a good balance of actually listening and then trying to not always put your POV on it. It's more about sometimes just about listening.
Speaker 2:I don't want your opinion. It is very healing.
Speaker 1:But it's true I do. I mean, especially with this therapist. I feel like the more I talk about it, the better I practice it Right. When you become a teacher, you're a much better learner. Even yesterday my friend was talking. I'm not going to say her name, she's talking about a guy that she's seeing and like.
Speaker 2:Say her name, say her name. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:But she's saying, like he's got all these things that I want, but like he doesn't have this.
Speaker 2:I'm like okay, so what like?
Speaker 1:everyone's gonna have this something. It's pretty good in that department, um, and and I'm like, I'm like it's so interesting, like you, every, every person you've talked to, like you've just been so quick to like find the the problems right, like what's like maybe turning you off or whatever, like the one thing, like maybe turning you off or whatever, like the one thing that's turning you off. I'm like, let me try an analogy with you. I want you to look at that plant and tell me what color it is she's like green.
Speaker 1:I'm like okay, how much red did you see right now? Can you point me to it? She's like no, there's no red. And then she turned around. I was like red, right there, red, right there, red, right there. You're only going to see what you're looking for yes so I don't know. It was pretty like she was like whoa, you're right do you feel like dating has become really difficult?
Speaker 2:since we're on that topic of relationships, is dating hard for millennials. Why, why? Did you what happened?
Speaker 1:what do you define as dating?
Speaker 2:uh, like a relationship, being in a relationship with someone. Okay, is that hard to find a stable relationship nowadays? Everyone's complaining. Boys are complaining. Well, men are complaining. Women are complaining.
Speaker 1:Boys we're all boys, um, so okay, the reason why I asked you to define dating was I don't have that much experience but you don't have a girlfriend. I do not have a problem, but that's why it's not.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's not dating, it's like different well, dating, because I'm I'm a little bit conservative, but what I meant by dating is like actually finding like someone to date not just sleeping around, not just sleeping around, not just sleeping around. Great, no Reza.
Speaker 1:Because that's a different topic.
Speaker 2:No, not that kind of dating, but like a relationship finding love.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I could tell you that through the perspective of my conversations with other people, and not maybe personal experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's going on out there? Tell us.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Subject matter expert reza jacks on dating.
Speaker 1:What's your real last name, by the way? Come?
Speaker 2:on. This is top secret top secret.
Speaker 1:No, but you're not far. You're not far. M-o-u tell me what is it?
Speaker 2:no, you can't, musavi musavi musavi zade reza musavi Zadeh, reza Musavi Zadeh. There you go. Wow, the Zadeh part you got.
Speaker 1:Trying to get like white people on the phone with like credit cards, like pronouncing their name.
Speaker 2:Reza Jackson Say it.
Speaker 1:Reza Musavi Zadeh. I'm sorry, sir, I think let me just try that. I'm like sweetie, just relax, Just don't when are they calling from?
Speaker 2:Why are you in debt?
Speaker 1:They get so passionate of like getting the name right, I'm like, dude, you're not going to get it right. They're like, no, no, no, one more time, one more time Musaviza Day. I'm like there you go, you got it right, sweetie.
Speaker 2:That's a beautiful last name.
Speaker 1:Jackson, come on. No, okay, fine Musaviza going to say say it, reza, jackson, style, style, I'm funny too, right you're very funny.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you. Thank you, you're welcome calling me funny. Um, what was your serious question? My serious question is why has dating become a complete disaster amongst millennials?
Speaker 1:before we get to that, hold on. Have you seen that guy, edward Petrosi? He's actually Iranian-Armenian, yes, and he's like I said. No, this is serious. I grab a long, rigid knife like this, grab the phone, tack, tack, so Persian. I love Edward Petrosi, I love you man, sorry.
Speaker 2:Pay him.
Speaker 1:Pay him, pay me, okay, where?
Speaker 2:were we your relationships.
Speaker 1:Relationships.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're moving around so much, oh my God.
Speaker 1:That's okay. Sorry for the editors.
Speaker 2:Yes, relationships, I mean not just dating Again, like I think there's a couple of things and this is not controversial.
Speaker 1:I think this is pretty like you know, make it controversial.
Speaker 2:Who cares? We go viral.
Speaker 1:Bridgerton vibes Scandal. Do you watch it? I started watching it.
Speaker 2:Isn't it fabulous.
Speaker 1:It's so fabulous. It's pretty much like Iranians, but in England Everyone's courting. Someone brings their white BMW, always, always.
Speaker 2:Always BMW, always Hola.
Speaker 1:Hola, hola, okay, I think this is what's happened. There's a couple of factors, okay. One there's just such an oversupply of dating apps, right?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh yes.
Speaker 1:And the whole COVID thing happened, and they still can't date with all these dating apps. But that's the problem is that people have become like especially with COVID, have stayed home and have resorted to dating apps, that their ability to socialize in real life has diminished.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Right. So that's one problem is we're getting like a very fake, not real human connection version of dating, a very fake, not real human connection version of dating. And then two and this is just based on podcasts that I've listened to is that in the last whatever 30, 40 years, there's been a lot more women that have women are much more educated, degrees, et cetera. Yeah, and what's happening with that is this new generation of women expect a man who makes more money, who's smarter than them, and unfortunately, like the reality is, there aren't that many men to support the. There's not that much supply of men that fit these categories or requirements that this larger group of women want, and the ones that do fit these requirements want to be with a bunch of other girls, so, like they're getting shafted the men, and so it's making them more nervous to come up and talk to girls. Girls requirements are becoming more and more and more very, and now there's this huge delta of supply and demand, and so I don't know what the solution is. But the supply and demand, and so I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 1:But the like the suggestions I give to some of my female friends is like why does he have to make more money than you Like. Why does he have to be in a more um status? Wise, like, better job than you Like? What if the man is the caretaker? Yeah, like he's the caretaker, which is a wonderful job. He's a really good dad. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Like I have a friend whose husband is a schoolteacher, makes way less than her. Yes, but she tells me she's like in the household he's the man. Yes, he's the man. Yes, he's the man. He makes the decisions.
Speaker 2:She's submissive.
Speaker 1:I just make the money.
Speaker 2:Yes, so like I think it breeds that kind of a new understanding and disassociation with traditional male and female roles for there to be more, you know, connections, there you go, I've solved dating yes, but that was so beautifully stated and I don't I don't think that our generation, like millennials, were not very accepting of that, though that's such a beautifully way to put it, that's actually a beautifully conservative way of putting things that who cares how much he makes? You know, as long as he's making money, he's trying to put food on the table, he's a provider, he's trying his best. As long as he's a good person, he's going to be a great dad, a good husband. We're not looking at the characteristics. It's very objectified, you know, like the car dressing and career. Everything is very objectified nowadays.
Speaker 1:And materialistic, materialistic as in like do these things actually matter? Like when you're in your deathbed, are you like, oh my God, I wish I had the whatever E class instead of the C class. I wish my home had two more pools. No, you think about the connection that you had with that someone. And I'm not saying that I'm not materialistic at all. I certainly am.
Speaker 2:What do you?
Speaker 1:drive Mercedes-Benz, of course Clutch.
Speaker 2:I drive a Cadillac.
Speaker 1:Do you Wow Nice?
Speaker 2:Thank you, I like Mercedes, like the Uber, black ones no.
Speaker 1:Because a lot of Armenians do Uber. Black drivers.
Speaker 2:It's Baby Baloo.
Speaker 1:Oh, baby Baloo, Wow Okay.
Speaker 2:Electric.
Speaker 1:So it happens when you get an Armenian impression together.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Danger.
Speaker 2:This is so fun. I love these conversations. See, you're like naturally you dive deep into like meaningful conversations like this. You have it in you. You can hold like a-.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:I'm not just a clown.
Speaker 1:You're not. What is that? What is that?
Speaker 2:You would hold an awesome conversation on a date.
Speaker 1:I would, you would and I certainly do. Ladies, you know my handle. Maybe Are you advertising.
Speaker 2:I'm always advertising. Okay, it's called ABC. Always be closing, yes, always be closing. By the way, this is what I wanted to ask. I kept forgetting. What makes a good salesman? That's what I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1:I keep forgetting what makes a good salesman. I mean that definition is a challenging job the answer to that question probably has been changing as I learn more and I'm still got so much to learn and learning, but the most freshest one is having an abundance mindset what about honesty? Absolutely. I mean honesty comes with an abundance mindset.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:An abundance mindset means that you are going to be honest and even if you think that that honestly is going to cost you the sale, you have belief that somewhere down the line that honesty will get you a bigger sale. So, that ties into the abundance mindset.
Speaker 2:Can you tell us a lot about this Serving people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we've lost touch with how important service is. I was listening to this podcast. It's Simon Sinek In leadership. Diary of a CEO.
Speaker 1:It was a new one and he's talking about how much, and it's so fun. I literally felt this today Talking about how much and it's so fun, like I literally felt this today. He was saying we've forgotten how much service plays a role in our own happiness. And he gave an example of like he was in New York and this guy was parking his car and he had room behind him but he just parked really shitty and Simon went up to him and he's like hey, can you move your car a little bit, like somebody else can fit? And the guy's like why you want the spot. He's like no, but like somebody else might. And he's like no, I don't care. And like ignore the conversation and it was such a small act of kindness. But his argument is that by doing you live in a world you don't live on your own.
Speaker 1:There's other people in in this world Of course the more you give service, the more fulfilled you feel, and that's actually the secret sauce. And before I came here, I went to the bathroom at Fatburger and I'm not trying to like pat myself on the back, I'm just realizing the effect.
Speaker 1:But you need to sometimes yeah, but it's just a good example of this theory in practice. Like 30, 45 minutes ago, um, I went to go to the bathroom. The guys like you have to buy something. I'm like, no problem, what do you? Got cookie, let's get a cookie. And another girl comes behind me. She's like can I go to the bathroom? You gotta buy something. And he's like, are you guys together? I'm like she's with me and and then she's like, oh my god, thank you so much, like I love your hair, thank you so much, like I love your hair, thank you so much. She was so happy. And I walked out of there like, like, so happy for like just helping someone in such a small way. And we're so selfish and we think that it's all me, me, me that we forget that you feeling happy is actually very much about helping other people.
Speaker 2:You know, Robert Greene.
Speaker 1:Who kind of rings a bell?
Speaker 2:He's amazing. He's written several books, but he talks about my mommy's calling me Pick it up.
Speaker 1:Let's talk to her.
Speaker 2:No, it's okay, she's going to be like where are you, the kids, my kids are with her, but he talks about how everybody is a narcissist.
Speaker 1:I think I've heard this he, but he talks about how everybody is a narcissist I think I've heard this.
Speaker 2:He's like everything and the ones that say no, I'm not a narcissist.
Speaker 1:Are even more Are.
Speaker 2:You know, we are all very egocentric, we're not very like, we're very like I. I mine mine Especially in America.
Speaker 2:Especially in here. Yeah, and there is a theoretical approach in psychology. So when we take our licensure exam, there is a theoretical approach there that's in the book and we need to study, we need to know it. And it's those acts of service, acts of kindness. When you do have a client comes in with severe, like depression or, you know, anxieties or panics or whatever disorder, usually those kinds of approaches help them to heal because ultimately, helping other people heal you in a way they do, they genuinely heal you. In a way it feels so good because you're getting a blessing of an old lady. When you walk them across the street or drive somebody to a chemotherapy appointment, see how that feels like, how grateful they would be. I know it just does something to your body scientifically.
Speaker 1:So this is actually exactly another example from Simon Sinek where he said his friend really needed help with her marriage issues and they're like, okay, every Wednesday we meet for an hour and I help you go through it. They did that for two, three months, for one day, two days after. She'd be great, and then it'd be problems again. And then he's like, let's try this. I actually need some help too. But he knew what he was doing in the back of his head. Why don't we do it this way? We do it half half, you help me a little bit and I help you for half the time. And then what ended up happening for like whatever X amount of weeks straight? She just helped him the whole time because he just they would go on and the conversation would naturally be about him and she'd help him, and two weeks after she was back on track, didn't need any help, because it was exactly that. It was a service that actually healed her Absolutely.
Speaker 2:You know why therapists are therapists. You can ask your wonderful therapist this because we heal ourselves by healing other people.
Speaker 1:Interesting. I get paid a good buck for it. She's actually so affordable. I love her, I love you.
Speaker 2:Aw yeah, you too. We help others. We help ourselves by helping others, so it's the same concept. There's just something in helping people that is very healing and I wish that everybody could really understand and take that in in hopefully, with this podcast, we'll have more and more people yes, you guys, but yeah, so good salesman is is basically all about that. You need more water.
Speaker 1:You know what a good salesman needs lots of water, these 100 milliliter waters next time I'll have sandwich with lemon and mint.
Speaker 2:Are you not thirsty? No, I'm actually very hydrated. I drank my mint lemon water in the morning as I was getting ready for you.
Speaker 1:Mint. That's an Armenian touch, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Mint. You guys have mint in all your spaghettis Persian yeah. Your Persian spaghetti, I saw you cooking with mom?
Speaker 1:I cook a mean spaghetti with Tadi.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm so proud of you? You are I see.
Speaker 1:Tadik is I'm incredible.
Speaker 2:Where is the best Tadik?
Speaker 1:Reza Jackson's house.
Speaker 2:Come on, everybody go to Reza Jackson's house, not everybody, not everybody. I love how you got scared, and not everybody.
Speaker 1:Don't find my address and, like Tadik, is a very sensitive thing. You know, depending on how big your pot is you can't invite more than four people.
Speaker 2:Oh man, it's so good. Though what is the history behind Tadik, do you know? It's like somebody just burned rice one day and they went.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:But it's fabulous, it's fabulous, it is fabulous. Have you been back to Iran?
Speaker 1:Lighter note. Is it lighter? It's getting pretty dark over here. No, I went back. I used to go back to Okay, so let me tell you when I was in. I'm going to just tell you a little story because it makes sense here. I moved to Vancouver, canada, when I was seven. Backstreet Boys days, spice Girls you know what I'm saying yes.
Speaker 1:The 90s, the 90s, and I'm just going to tell another story because these are fun. I remember when I was a kid this is seven, eight I would go to class and all the white kids would have like peanut butter and jelly and like I'd have.
Speaker 1:Gorma Sapsi and like they're like ew, what is that? It stinks, and like I was a kid, like I was bullied because of it, Right, and you know a little, you know little, you know fricking. 15 years later at university, I'm bringing that korma sabzi and everybody around me is like, oh my god, give me some of that korma sabzi. Um, where was I going with this story?
Speaker 2:have you been back to iran, oh?
Speaker 1:yes, okay. So the reason why I told that story was after that I became pretty like, let's say, whitewashed, like assimilated into the culture. Um, I had maybe few persian friends up until high school and then I went back to iran. I went to iran after high school ended and like fell in love with our culture. Like I got I was repersian persianified persian music.
Speaker 2:I had like, once you go persian there's no better vision I learned that a few days ago from a friend, just a few days ago.
Speaker 1:You've been in la your whole life I'm sorry um armenians all my life persian armenians come on, once you go, armenian, there's no other.
Speaker 2:I'll figure something out okay I'll, I'll promise you guys, I'll figure something out um, so okay, after high school.
Speaker 1:So I came back from high school and I was just super loved. Like I had a Persian CD with all the songs, like I was just all over it. I was always close to the culture, I loved Persian culture, but like I didn't speak that much Farsi, I didn't have that many people to speak Farsi to, except my parents. So then when I came back from high school first day of university, I'll never forget this my cousin first day of university, I'll never forget this. My cousin in iran showed me a girl, her name's nages. If we could talk about her. She's sweet. Um, they're best friends in iran and she's like oh, she's going to, she lives in vancouver. And so the orientation day I went to ubc in vancouver. I've seen agnes and I'm like you're my cousin shiva's friend, I'm reza, I'm her cousin yeah I went to her wedding last year.
Speaker 1:Since then, then we've been super close, and it was because of that that was like the starting point that I started to have a ton more Persian friends in university, and so every year when it would be summer break, I would go to Iran.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:To answer your question, and then that pretty much ended with my last trip to Iran, my last year of university like pretty much ended with my last trip to Iran, my last year of university, like 12 years ago. So that was the last time I went to Iran.
Speaker 2:You know what? I love? The fact that, no matter how long you've lived here and however old you are, you've never lost touch with your roots. No, like you cook Iranian food, you speak fully. You have so much respect for your culture. Your parents, like you're doing a wonderful job portraying that. Like anybody that watches your instagram, they can tell what, like this guy is really proud of. You know where he comes from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly, that's amazing and I haven't not gone your parents have to be proud of you, for that I mean mean it's because of them too, but you too.
Speaker 1:It's because they couldn't speak. No, they can speak English, but no, like, it's just weird, like if I speak English with my mom, Right she's great, but it's just like weird.
Speaker 2:I can tell.
Speaker 1:She's like Reza. What are you just Farsi?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I speak Armenian with my parents, farsi with each other, when they don't want me and my brother to understand? Yeah, they don't want to talk shit. It's like uh-uh when they want to talk. But you know you've got to, you have to Like. It's up to us to keep our culture going and you know, like alive legacy of our people alive.
Speaker 1:And I want to go back. So there's no particular reason that I haven't gone back like a political reason, but it just happens to be. Since I graduated from university, I got a job, and with having a job you get three weeks off, just generally speaking. And so since then I've been like, okay, Tulum, Burning man, Ibiza, like Europe trip, so like there, just hasn't been. You were just in.
Speaker 2:Morocco right.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's amazing Versus like a university summer where you have two months. You can go to Iran for an entire month, you can't just go to Iran for a week.
Speaker 2:I'll go soon. It's so beautiful there. I'll go soon. Yeah, why not? You know, what do you practice? A religion?
Speaker 1:No, not really.
Speaker 2:How about your parents?
Speaker 1:No, not really no. I think there's like there's essentially like three no four main cohorts, five of Persians from a religious perspective there's Persian Jews, there's Persian Armenians, Christian, there's Baha'i, there's Persian Muslims, which there really aren't a ton of outside of Iran. And then there's the fifth, which are like the whatever kind of vibe, and that's like all OC. Persians are like the oh, like yeah, I guess we're Muslim if we have to choose one, but like we're not practicing.
Speaker 1:So you're Muslim but you're not practicing. It's weird, like I don't know. I don't even know the answer to that question, am I? I hear you, I am by like.
Speaker 2:Were you born into a Muslim family? No, but you're just not practicing.
Speaker 1:Like my grandma wore a hijab, okay. But, like my dad, has never prayed.
Speaker 2:My mom has never prayed yeah.
Speaker 1:We eat pork.
Speaker 2:Is religion important for you?
Speaker 1:No, okay, I think like believing in something higher than yourself, and the source and the universe certainly is extremely important. The name of that source, whether it's.
Speaker 2:Allah, jesus, yeah, but the belief is important for you.
Speaker 1:A million percent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does, it's table stakes. No, no, no, 100%. And I always tell like, when we're with a group of friends and we're talking, I always say like look, having a belief in something is so important, like you don't have to like be a Christian or have faith in, like you don't have to be a Christian or have faith in Christianity or be Muslim. You can choose whatever, even if the creator for you is more from a spiritual perspective. But that faith, that belief in something is really. It just gives you so much peace.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's so important. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but have faith, and have faith in yourself, and it brings you so much peace and that's healing in itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, if you don't believe that in anything, that's tough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very. You become a very miserable angry Because there's no magic. There's no magic.
Speaker 1:I want magic, I want the untouchable, the intangible. The foozy, it's a fozzy, it's a woozy, it's a wazzy. The intangible, the foozy, it's a fozzy it's a woozy, it's a wazzy. Yes, the please, let this happen or I'm praying for this or we know. Whatever it is and it's happened. Like I'm telling you, there's something divine.
Speaker 2:There is my friend.
Speaker 1:What it?
Speaker 2:is yes, whatever it is, we're going to leave it to everybody they want to believe in, whatever, but there definitely is something up in there. I mean, look at us, we, we connect. I just messaged you one time and you were so kind enough to open your message and I was like, oh, please, you know, like I hope he, because I'm sure you get like tons of, but he was so kind and I think that it's it's always that belief that makes things happen for me you know I always have this like strong sense of faith.
Speaker 2:I am a Christian. I always have this strong faith and this belief and that's what keeps me going and it keeps me sane. You know, I know I believe in that.
Speaker 1:I'm wearing my cross, as everybody thinks I'm Christian, but it's fashion.
Speaker 2:You're wearing a cross Two, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, I just noticed that Two. Those are beautiful, Reza I remember I wore back when Cristiano Ronaldo was like super cool, I used to have his like haircut. He would wear a rosary. He's still cool. No, he's still cool. He's so nice. Did you see that picture of him going through the bushes?
Speaker 2:to take a With the fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's so sweet.
Speaker 2:He is a very good guy.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's what I was going to say. The guy never changed who he is. I wonder what's wrong with him. No, like you know what I mean. Like he's tall, the best football player like still super good looking and the kindest and like what's wrong with him.
Speaker 2:I think that's what people. I just think that it's his faith, His faith and you know his family-oriented mentality just being a good person Like things like this manifest. You know, the more I mean the kinder person you are, the more wonderful things you manifest in the world.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Well, reza, this has been so nice, thank you so much Thank you for going I appreciate it Absolutely, and you gave us a dance too, which was so cool.
Speaker 1:I thought that was my camera for a second.
Speaker 2:This was you were dancing into this one right, yes no, I figured.
Speaker 1:Once I looked here I realized that oh no he's not looking back.
Speaker 2:I hope you guys saw a more personal side of Reza, which was really cool. We talked about your childhood and dating and sales and all kinds of wonderful topics. So thank you so much for opening up and accepting my invitation.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Bye, you guys. Thank you, toodles.