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Unlock the secrets of manifestation and discover how to reprogram your subconscious mind with our special guest,  Michele Guzy . With over 35 years of experience as a hypnotherapist and mind coach,  Michele shares her incredible journey of mastering manifestation from the tender age of nine. Learn how societal and media-driven negativity can cloud our perceptions of relationships and wealth, and find out how to break free from these influences to realize your true potential.

We'll explore the profound workings of the subconscious mind, likening it to a vast storage unit of memories, beliefs, and experiences that shape our reality. Through  Michele's expert insights, you’ll understand the significance of repetition and association in achieving your goals and how hypnosis can serve as a powerful tool for rewiring your subconscious. We also delve into the impact of historical and intergenerational trauma, such as the Armenian Genocide, on present generations and discuss strategies for breaking the cycle of negative programming to foster positive change.

Finally, we discuss the fascinating connection between mind and body, addressing how suppressed emotions can manifest as physical ailments and the concept of environmental hypnosis. Michele offers practical advice on trusting your gut instinct and understanding the energy fields around you. Whether you're struggling with subconscious fears or seeking to harness the power of manifestation, this episode is packed with valuable insights and transformative techniques to help you create the life you desire.

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Speaker 1:

Here's the thing there's 8 billion plus people on the planet. They don't all have to be your friends. Family members don't all have to be your best friends. You don't have to take care of everybody. You don't have to listen to everybody. You don't have to do what everybody else wants.

Speaker 2:

People have these unrealistic expectations and they say like I want a billion dollars, I want a million dollars, for example, but you've never had access to it. Your mind doesn't understand how to perceive that.

Speaker 1:

To understand that, our mind focuses on the negatives 10 times more than the positives, because that's what society is. That's what sells in society. Negativity sells, fear sells. Turn on the TV, watch your commercials.

Speaker 2:

Social media is a classic example. We're supposed to use it to help us grow, but it's doing the opposite nowadays. It's killing today's society, the generation. It's horrible.

Speaker 1:

In order to learn, you have to go into a suggestible state. You have to, as I call it, we have to open that door to the subconscious mind so information can come in.

Speaker 2:

Hello everyone, thank you for joining me today. Today I wanted to have a guest on just about manifestations energy, our good instinct, intuition, energy fields. What's really going on? Why aren't we able to manifest? Because I know there's people who talk about this profusely I'm manifesting, but something's not working. She explains to us about the energy blocks. She talks about the 90% that takes up of our brain, which is our subconscious mind. Then there's a 10%, which is our conscious mind. Ask questions of are we really using 2% of our brain and why aren't we using 100%? What's really blocking that? So she gets into that. We do talk about the energy fields, which is so beautiful. We talk about the bad energy, the negative energy. What we say matters. She explains how words are so important, so eloquently. So if you are interested in manifestations, if you want to know how it works, how prayer really works, how manifestation really works, you have to listen to Michelle Guzzi.

Speaker 2:

Michelle is a hypnotherapist and a mind coach and has been in this field a little over 35 years. She has learned about manifestations when she was nine years old and has had her private practice since she was 20 years old. What she has to say is fascinating and her experience of manifestation is fascinating. Anywho, I know you guys are excited and so am I, and one important thing that I touched on for anybody that's watching 1915, there was the Armenian genocide. I know that the whole world is aware of this and I wanted to ask her of why it's not being recognized. What's really going on? What are we doing wrong as Armenian, the Armenian culture, the Armenian people? And her answers were mind-blowing and I really appreciate her because she called it out and I want every single person out there that their culture has experienced genocide or a Holocaust or some sort of trauma is in the culture, whether it's war.

Speaker 2:

I really want everybody to tune in and listen to what she says, because we can all change that if we can all come together and change the mindset and how we change that. I'll leave that to you to tune in and watch. Make sure to subscribe and let's listen to Michelle Guzzi with her fascinating wisdom and hypnotherapy. All right, hi, michelle, hello, my dear, it's so nice to be in your presence today. Thank you so much for accepting my invitation. So happy to talk to you today.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. I'm really excited to be here. You are awesome. This place is awesome, really.

Speaker 2:

What we're going to talk about is awesome. I know I'm so excited. You guys, I know everybody has been waiting for this podcast, because we're going to talk about manifestation, which is in a lot of people's hearts, a lot of people's minds, and people are genuinely wanting to understand what it is, how they can really work on it, what's blocking them from reaching those goals and manifestations and dreams, and I can't wait to have this authentic conversation with you. So, thank you, you're welcome. All right, so you earlier had me look up in the dictionary what the word manifestation actually means.

Speaker 1:

Can I read it? You can? I'm going to be very interested to see what it actually means.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Because I don't think people really understand.

Speaker 2:

Yes. First, I think it's important right to know what the word actually means before proceeding with action. Yes, Right, Okay actually means before proceeding with action yes, Right, Okay. So the one thing, that is, there's multiple definitions of it actually, but I this the first one. It says easily understood or recognized by the mind, and then it says obvious, in bulk letters, huge and in blue.

Speaker 1:

What's obvious? So it says obvious, yeah, by the mind is obvious, and it's in blue. What's obvious? So it said obvious, yeah, by the mind is obvious and it's in blue, okay, so something. So when we're manifesting, then it's saying that it's something that's perceived by the mind and it's something that it's obvious when it comes into your life. It's obvious that you know, you've been thinking about this, you've been wanting this, and when it actually happens, then it's obvious that these are the results that are taking place. Wow, go ahead, you think. I think that's what the blue obvious actually means?

Speaker 2:

I think so too. And then there's another definition, it's multiple definitions. It says to make evident in blue or certain by showing or displaying.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So unless it's a reality, unless it's actually happening, then it's still just stuck in your mind. So when we manifest it, then it comes true in your life. It's here, it's here, right here, right now. You have that.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. Let me give you an example of what happens to me sometimes, and then we can dive into the convo. So sometimes when I'm thinking about someone, that person's on my mind like maybe two days later that same person that I'm thinking about, I will either see or I will have a phone call from that person. Is that manifesting?

Speaker 1:

That's actually energy Really Can you tell me about that. So we got to break down what it all kind of represents.

Speaker 2:

Teach us.

Speaker 1:

You know I deal with a mind-body healing. I do hypnosis, hypnotherapy, all of these fascinating little modalities. But what people don't really understand is that everything is a state of energy. Your cells are energy, your body is energy, your thoughts are energy, and energy is always being received and perceived. We're transforming energy, we're sending energy. So if you're thinking about somebody I just did this the other day or if somebody pops into my mind, I know they're thinking about me and.

Speaker 1:

I'm open enough and experienced enough to know that that energy is coming to me. It's a frequency. So if you were thinking about somebody and then a couple of days later they called you or they sent you a little text or email, it's because you sent that wavelength, you sent that energy out to them. That's so powerful and the universe is just energy. The earth is energy, this table is energy, and when you get really really good at it, then you can manifest what you want that energy to be. So if you want to have a brand new car, if you want to have a healthy, happy relationship, then you have to create that thought in your mind. You need to feel it, see it, hear it, experience it, as if it's already a reality now, and then send that energy out into the universe, send it out to where you want it so it can be received and then brought right back to you.

Speaker 2:

That's so interesting? Does everybody naturally have the ability to possess that energy and to manifest?

Speaker 1:

these things, Everybody has the ability to do that. You know we're born with this natural ability to be able to experience life to the fullest. You know, babies, when we're born, we have no fears, we have no insecurities. You have children right. I've been working in my business for over 30 years.

Speaker 1:

And you know, children have no fears, they have no negatives, they have no jealousy, no competition, no insecurities, no low confidence, low self-esteem. You name it. Until we put that in there, true, until we start saying oh no, no, no, you can't do this, you can't have it, you can't think it, you can't feel that. That cannot possibly come to you because, well, we've never had a million dollars in our family. Why would you think you deserve to have a our family? Why would you think you deserve to have a million dollars?

Speaker 1:

Why do you think you deserve to have a brand new car or healthy, happy relationship? So you know, children have this and they can manifest things very, very quickly. But then we learn that it's not safe to do so, so we shut that off that it's not safe to do so, so we shut that off.

Speaker 2:

That's something very interesting. You said children have an easier way of manifesting, so that means that we all have the ability, as you confirmed, but something's blocking that, and that something could be either jealousy, it can be resentment, it can be hate. Are those some of the things that block our energy?

Speaker 1:

resentment, it can be hate. Are those some of the things that block our energy? It is, and it's also. You know what we're seeing in the social media. You know what we see on TV, what we watch in the news, what we hear on the radio. So we live in a society that everything is available to us. Now you know, I, just you know I grew up in Alaska. I didn't grow up here in Los Angeles. I grew up in a whole different environment. You know when. Just you know I grew up in Alaska. I didn't grow up here in Los Angeles. I grew up in a whole different environment.

Speaker 1:

You know when I moved here when I was about 19,. It was a culture shock for me, Even though I'm moving into the same country Alaska is, you know, one of the states but I grew up with a different mindset of you know how you deal with people, how you deal with nature. And then, coming here, and there's 10 million plus people here, the energy shifted and so that's what I noticed for me, actually as a young person the higher level of the competition and the jealousy that affected my confidence and self-esteem and my ability to manifest my dreams and whatever I wanted to do, because I felt now I had to be accountable for everybody else, right, what everybody else wanted me to do or what I was supposed to be doing here in this town.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's so interesting. Is that why you got into hypnotherapy and the mind coaching?

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, actually it's a funny story.

Speaker 1:

Please, I'd love to hear your story. I've been doing hypnotherapy for about 33 years, my goodness. I'm an instructor of hypnotherapy. I also do neurolinguistic programming, I'm a mind coach and I work with energy in the body as well. But I started doing hypnotherapy when I was about nine what? Nine years old.

Speaker 1:

I found this book on hypnosis and it had some past life regression in there and I just knew how to do this. So I was with a friend of mine and we took the book, we got it from her family's house and I started it and it was just so natural for me. So I started doing past life regressions, which is just a hypnotic modality of kind of going back and looking to see if you've lived in another life. When I was about nine years old, I was in fourth grade and I would do it with all the kids in the neighborhood and just you know, it was just something I did. It was just like a little fun little thing and I didn't know that there were schools for hypnosis. I had no clue there was hypnotherapy colleges. So when I went to, you know, came here to Los Angeles when I was about 24, I found out about the College of Hypnotherapy and then that was it? You know, I went there and I started studying and I became the youngest teacher on staff and the youngest hypnotherapist, and it just opened up so many avenues for me. And then I was not only doing hypnosis, I used to do massage. I was a massage therapist for a little while, I worked in fitness for a little while and I just found that everything kind of came together.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but it all really starts in your mind and it starts in your programming and what you believe about yourself and what you're hearing from everybody else. So when people come in and they do a hypnosis session with me, I want to know where you are now. I want to know what the dreams and the goals are that you want to manifest. What is it that you want to have in the future? But it's even more important for me to figure out where are we coming from. Tell me about your past. Tell me about growing up in the first eight or nine years of your life. What was that like for you?

Speaker 2:

Because that imprints your subconscious beliefs, can you tell us about the subconscious mind, as we call it. What does that mean, and why is it important to recognize that we have a subconscious mind?

Speaker 1:

I think many people are a little confused between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind, and then they hear the unconscious mind. Yes, so I kind of like to call it the subconscious mind. So the conscious mind is your logical thinking. When we're adults, I call it your adult logical thinking. It's your decision making, how you analyze your willpower, how you use reasoning skills, but it's just a tiny, tiny percentage of your mind, maybe about 10% of your mind, and that's it. So what we're using right now to communicate is just 10%. What people are listening with is 10% of their mind.

Speaker 2:

So when they say that you only use 2% of your brain, that's your whole brain.

Speaker 1:

So that's all the 2% of your brain, that's your whole brain.

Speaker 2:

So that's all the different parts of the brain, with the subconscious and the unconscious included.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that is the communication. So your consciousness. When you're conscious, you're aware, you're awake, you have different parts of the brain working for you. The limbic system, everything in your nervous system is in charge with all of that. But your conscious mind is your thought process, how you're thinking now. But we call the subconscious mind your programs. It's about 90% of your total mind power, which is your memory.

Speaker 2:

Is that what you mean? It's your memory.

Speaker 1:

It's your beliefs. If we have, you know, like your computer, it's your programs in the computer. Your cell phone, it's all of the. It's your beliefs. If we have, you know, like your computer, it's your programs in the computer. Your cell phone, it's all of the apps on your cell phone. Those are your programs. So, from the second that you were born, what you see, what you hear, what you feel, what you taste, what you smell, all senses all experiences.

Speaker 1:

Yes, they all get logged. Wow. So they're logged in your subconscious mind and your brain creates neural pathways and those neural pathways are firing and wiring messages and signals. So your subconscious is your storage unit. Some people got storage units out there. They put all their stuff in there, but it's always running in the background. People, you know. When they ask me what the unconscious mind is, then I can go a little bit deeper and say the unconscious could be the collective unconscious, that could be more of the energy. Or, if you want to go into the spiritual side of that, that's the deepest, deepest level, to where it's just so automatic.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's who we are, the core of who we are, and you know. But it's our subconscious mind, to tell you the truth, that's running the show. So you may think you want certain things in your life. You may say I want to have this, yes. But if your conscious mind says, you know, I want to have this. But if your conscious mind says, I want to be healthy, I want to reduce my weight, I want to exercise, I want to increase my confidence, you have that thought process, that 10% saying, yes, this is what I want to do. I know I can do this.

Speaker 1:

But your subconscious mind has to look at that thought that comes in and it then needs to match up your programs and it needs to say have we ever had this before? Have we had that type of relationship before? Have we had this amount of money before? Have we been at that desired weight before? Have we felt that healthy before? Have we had this amount of money before? Have we been at that desired weight before? Have we felt that healthy before? And if you have too much in your subconscious programming that's negative or that's saying my gosh, you know, we've weighed this amount for 30 years. Why do you want to get rid of it now. Or you've never been in a good relationship, or you've never had a decent job or that amount of money. So your subconscious, its main purpose, is to protect you, Is it? It's protecting because it's going to protect what you programmed it for right. So we have our computers. What's a virus in the computer Damage?

Speaker 1:

Damage and damages your programs, right? So we don't want to. We have all these virus blockers and defenders and so forth that protect our computer from these viruses and from anybody to hack our programs. Well, that's what your subconscious mind is for, because once it learns the information, it says now I have this program, I'm going to keep it safe, I'm not going to change it unless there's something else that's coming in that's going to be more powerful than this, and it has to be with a repetition.

Speaker 1:

So everything in your mind is called the law of repetition and the law of association. So when you're going to start manifesting things, you need to keep these two laws in mind. Because if you just think, oh, I want that brand new red Corvette, and you just think about it one time, one day your subconscious mind is going to say, well, that was cute, we're going to get rid of that because you've not been consistent with that thought. You've never had a brand new, shiny red Corvette. You don't even know what that is to drive that, so it will kick it out so then, how do we work on our subconscious mind to recognize these things?

Speaker 2:

because you're absolutely right sometimes discipline has never been practiced, routine has never been articulated, or or you know it, the thought is there, but action has never been there. So then, how do we get our subconscious mind to help us? You?

Speaker 1:

know I really wish that as children, or even as teenagers, we are taught about the mind and how the mind works. If I would have known about the conscious and the subconscious mind a long time ago, it could have changed so many aspects in my life Really and really so many fears. So if you want this to start happening, you actually need to go into what we call a state of hypnosis.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so hypnosis is manifestation as well it is. That's exactly what it is. So if I was to break down hypnosis because that's kind of a scary word to people yeah, people think it's like… oh, let me get the little watch.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm sleepwalking and saying things I'm going to cluck like a chicken bark like a dog. Yeah Right, I learned in my therapy school. That's not what it's actually portrayed.

Speaker 1:

It's the opposite. So the word hypnosis it's just a Greek word. It means a sleep-like state. So that's what the word actually means. But if I was to take that word hypnosis and you get rid of everything you've seen in TV and movies and you take that word and you just put it aside, it just means a state of suggestibility. So hypnosis is suggestibility, and what is suggestibility? That is that suggestion, it's the power of suggestion. And what suggestion? That's communication. Can you tell us a little bit more? Yeah, so hypnosis is how we communicate with our subconscious programs, with ourself. It's how we communicate with our subconscious programs.

Speaker 2:

With ourself.

Speaker 1:

It's how we learn. Wow, we need to go into a state of hypnosis in order to learn. So if you know you have kids, and when you have little kids and they start going to school, you know children they have, they're like a blank piece of paper. When they're born, right, and then we start putting everything in there. So by the time they're about four or five years old, when they may start school sometimes a little bit younger, a little bit older they're coming in there as a blank slate, and so what the teachers put in, or what the families have put in ahead of time starts forming their personality, starts forming their natural behavioral styles.

Speaker 1:

Well, children are in hypnosis 24-7.

Speaker 1:

They're very, very suggestible, and when we start getting a little bit older, then we develop what we call a critical area of the mind that protects these known associations.

Speaker 1:

So, in order to learn, you have to go into a suggestible state. You have to, as I call it, we have to open that door to the subconscious mind so information can come in. And to start manifesting and actualizing your dreams and your goals, you have to put yourself into a state of hypnosis, which is very, very simple. Either I can do it, you can come in and we can do sessions with that and I also teach people what self-hypnosis is. It's mind, body, emotion, spirit, if you want to add that it's all congruent and getting into a certain state, to where you're able to receive, you're able to visualize, you're able to communicate in your own mind in a positive way what you want and future pace, that Put that into the future as if it's already happening now. And if you do that in a very suggestible focused state of mind and body, then, like we said, it sends that energy and that message out into the universe.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's so powerful.

Speaker 1:

And then that's the law of attraction right. So act as if you already possess, act as if you already have it. Wow, say and repeat to yourself. If you're going to give yourself affirmations or use mantras, then state it in the positive present tense, as if you have it now. I love riding around Los Angeles in my brand new red convertible Corvette. Say it, say it I love it, as if it's already here. See it, it's parked in your driveway.

Speaker 2:

So it's not just thinking of it. Thinking is not going to do much. You actually have to say it for the energy to transfer onto the universe.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's not even that you can. It's a very powerful way of doing that. You can verbalize it, but I know what we were looking that up with the definition it's hearing it, being able to visualize it and speaking that. So the mind gets it. So, whether or not you are speaking it out loud or you're repeating it to yourself, you're just saying it to yourself over and over and over again, the mind will accept it either way and that's why people are going on social media and listening to podcasts like this, because this is a state of hypnosis. People are in hypnosis right now. Believe it or not, they're in that state.

Speaker 1:

You're in that state by the way, I love you. I don't need to do the little you know. I can just change my voice if I want to, and take it down a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that's so funny.

Speaker 1:

No, don't do that voice. Do you really use that voice, though? I use that voice. Yes, I change my voice. I use that voice. Yes, I change my voice and breathe in. That's amazing. And so just me doing that. You immediately shifted your state, by the way. She shifted In just a couple seconds. She shifted her state. Yeah, and that's not even me doing it with you on purpose, with you knowing it. So think about that, think about the power of the mind and the power of energy, and you're going to get like flooded with phone calls afterwards. Sorry to cut you off. We can, we can and that's great.

Speaker 2:

Everyone's going to be like who is this? Oh my gosh, that's amazing. I'm so happy that these things are possible for human beings to have access to, and the funny thing is, it's all within yourself, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I really just want everybody on this planet it is literally my mission for everybody on this planet to understand hypnotic states, states, states of hypnosis. There's many, many levels of it. There are people that are called somnambulists. That's me Right, that's you, and you're just highly suggestible. Yes, so there are. You know, there's positive levels of that, which means you would be very good at manifesting because you are very suggestible. Because you are very suggestible and if you surround yourself with those positive thoughts and the visualization, and the auditory and the whole experience.

Speaker 1:

Yes, things are going to happen very quickly for you.

Speaker 1:

But, sorry to say, there are negative states of synambulism as well, and that is when we get caught up in the negative messages in society, that, if we get a little too caught up in what was being said in the news or the media, you know, and so forth, before really taking a look at ourselves and saying, well, is this true for me? Is this a belief system that I want to take on? You know, because if we were really listening to everything that's out there, we wouldn't be able to function. Oh my gosh, yes. So that's when it's important for the conscious mind to kick in and say, yes, I'm hearing this, I'm seeing this, I know it's going on. But let me, instead of just saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I believe this 100%, let me step back and ask myself is this okay with me? Wow, does this fit my values, my morals, my beliefs? So it's an interesting thing. So we're in hypnosis all the time.

Speaker 2:

I love what you said. I want to dive more into this. So noticing, a lot of teenagers are in this negative state of mind and there's this intrusive thought of I don't know if we would want to call it intrusive thought, but there's this imposter syndrome, like when I'm doing something. I have several coaching clients who say this. When I'm doing something, immediately the thought is what's the point? You're a nobody, right. Why are you even doing this? So this is all that negative state, this negative mindset With this earlier you had mentioned when you were younger. You wished that you had known what the mind is about. Is that what you said?

Speaker 1:

The difference between the conscious and the subconscious mind.

Speaker 2:

Yes. So, with all the parents or anybody watching right now, what is the important thing to know about the mind and how can knowing those things help with these negative thoughts that block our manifestation.

Speaker 1:

So just remember that the 90%, if not more, of your negative thoughts are coming from your subconscious fears. So fears that you're not even aware of, Fears that you're not even aware of that were put on you by other people family, society, teachers. You know what Anxious parents and so on.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So, and we have four basic fear modalities. We have the fear of success, the fear of failure, the fear of rejection and then the fear of loss of control. Oh, that fear of rejection is huge, for a lot of people.

Speaker 1:

That's huge and, depending on your fear, more of what I call a right brain or an extroverted personality style that's more fear of rejection that we deal with. If you're more of a left brain, analytical style, then you're feeling more of a fear of loss of control. You know, fear of success is procrastination. It's not that you don't think you can do it, you just don't think you may do it very well. Fear of failure is perfectionism, which means you've done your best, but your best could have been a little bit better. So you got an A. Why didn't you get an A plus on the test? But you're not born with this, so you had to hear it and learn it from somebody. So if you have these negative thoughts that come into your mind I'd love to do this or have this or experience this and then that negative thought comes in oh well, you know, you're not good enough, you're not smart enough, you're not pretty enough, you'll never amount to anything. It's not possible.

Speaker 1:

That is your subconscious program. Program, that's your subconscious mind. And what is it doing? It's just trying to keep you safe because you've not experienced it before. Or if you have experienced and then something happened and something went wrong, then it's going to latch onto that and say oh well, remember what happened last time? You got that brand new car? Well, somebody stole it. Oh, you got in a crash. A couple days later, oh, you know, it broke down. So that is in there. Our mind focuses on the negatives 10 times more than the positives.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, why do you think that is?

Speaker 1:

Because that's what society is, that's what sells in society. Sells in society. Negativity sells, fear sells. Turn on the TV, watch your commercials.

Speaker 2:

Instagram social media is a classic example. Pay attention, Right, I mean in order. We're supposed to use it to help us grow, but it's doing the opposite nowadays. It's killing today's society, the generation, it's horrible.

Speaker 1:

And you know, every generation is going to say the same thing. Oh, that generation before, well, we were perfect. And then the next generation, oh, what happened when they were in the you know 2024? Oh, there was a terrible generation. So it's just, it's evolution, it's how society works, it's how this planet works, but I want people to be more consciously in control of their subconscious mind and their subconscious programming Meaning. Catch yourself when those negatives come up. Just ask yourself is this coming from my conscious mind? Is this a reality? Is this really true or is this a subconscious fear? Is it a fear of success, fear of failure, fear of rejection, fear of loss of control? Which one of those four?

Speaker 2:

is it? Does it matter? Is there a different approach for?

Speaker 1:

each. Well, if you're having a fear of rejection. So what would that be? What are people thinking about me? What are my friends going to say? What would my family?

Speaker 2:

say if I actually did that, so that's more shaming, blaming.

Speaker 1:

So it's more personal. You know, fear of loss of control is I'm not in charge of my life. If this happens, I'm not going to be in control or in charge of my life. So it's a little bit more internal. So it's external versus internal.

Speaker 1:

So just check the thought and ask yourself is this a fact? Wow, I'll never be able to amount to anything really. Is that truly a fact? I have no. My favorite is I have no confidence.

Speaker 1:

So when clients come in to amount to anything, really, is that truly a fact? My favorite is I have no confidence. So when clients come in to see me and they say I have low confidence or I have no confidence, I sit there and I say, well, that's not even possible, I just don't have any confidence. And I say, well, did you get in your car and get on the freeway here in Los Angeles and drive across town to come into my office. And they say, well, yes, I said how did you have the confidence to get in the car, which is probably the most dangerous vehicle on the planet? Get on our freeway, drive in rush hour traffic not get hit, not run anybody over. Arrive at my office Park, find my office, walk up the stairs without falling down. And now you're sitting right here, but you have no confidence. So that's not a true statement, that's not a true belief. So would you?

Speaker 2:

say that that's a subconscious belief.

Speaker 1:

That's a fear which is part of, okay. So it's not that that's a subconscious belief. That's a fear which is part of. So it's not that you don't have confidence. You're allowing a fear to be stronger than you and what it is that you want, because you can do anything that you set your mind to do. You know, within what we call the smart approach, what is specific, what is measurable, what is attainable, what is realistic. There has to be a timeframe with it, so it has to be logical. I mean, if I had a dream that I want to go play basketball for the Lakers, you know, is that possible? He's laughing. He's like no, she's 5'2", she's a girl. It's not even possible. Maybe I could be the Laker girls if I was like 30 years younger, but no, that's not even possible.

Speaker 1:

So I can't. That's not a realistic goal.

Speaker 2:

I see what you see.

Speaker 1:

So if you're going to manifest, you have to manifest reality and realistic goals that you can actually achieve. Achieve. The other key with manifesting is that you don't want to go too high above your program, because your mind will kick that out as well. You mean like non-realistic goals? Yeah, so if you, for example, let's talk money right, everybody would love to have a little bit more money. I'd love to have a little bit more money. Who doesn't want a little bit more money? Right? But if you've only been programmed to make $100,000 per year, for example, and now you come in and you come into my office or you start doing visualization techniques or vision boards or any of these these are all manifesting techniques and you start saying I have a million dollars, a million dollars, a million dollars coming to me. If you've never, ever been close to a million, your mind stays in a state of homeostasis. It will not even regard that. That's funny. It's like your mind's like what you're going. You're going to Disneyland here.

Speaker 2:

You're playing yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's not even calm down Exactly.

Speaker 2:

That's very interesting. Your mind is really so. Basically it's just really putting you in your place, Like calm down, Be a little real here.

Speaker 1:

So it's not as if you can't have the million, but you got to go up in the increments, right yeah? So that's what happens when people win the lottery, right, and they win the lottery and they may like the one guy, what did he just win? Like a couple billion dollars. What was that? Last year or so? Yeah, unless he's had billions of dollars before, that money is going to be all gone, correct?

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what happens with? I mean, have you watched the lottery documentary? They're saying that it's a curse to win the lottery, but not necessarily. I think that people don't know how to manage because, as you said, they've never…. Yes, they're not programmed, so it's not a curse.

Speaker 1:

So eliminate that negative thought right there yes, exactly Because that's hypnosis you just did, you just put your whole audience in a state of hypnosis and you now put a hypnotic suggestion that you're not cursed.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it's okay. You can win the lottery, it's okay. But if you've not had a million dollars and you won the lottery, you have to look at your money mindset right now. So if you've made $100,000, then program 150 or start thinking 200,000. You can go up a couple times and then, because that's more manageable, that's more realistic to your mind, so it's doable, that energy can come to you, wow, and then once you hit that 200, then you can go up, you know, another 100,000. Small increments.

Speaker 2:

Then you start thinking 500,000.

Speaker 1:

Then when you get 500,000, you're like, let me go 750. So that's how people who are the millionaires and the billionaires and all of that, they didn't start off that way. You know. If they start with their business, you know, unless they were born into that, then that's just a natural money mindset there, because the family's always had money. They've never not had money. But you know, most millionaires and billionaires have gone bankrupt many, many, many times because maybe they made a lot of money but that wasn't their program. And so there goes the companies. Oh, they had bad investments, they lost it all, but they knew how to start over again. Like, well, let me start a little bit smaller here. Let me do it this way so if you were going to manifest, write out what it is that you want, look at your programming, what you are used to having right now that right, there is something that people don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think that you just broke that and I'm sorry for cutting you off. I want to validate that because it's probably the most important piece in manifestation. People have these unrealistic expectations and they say like I want a billion dollars, I want a million dollars, for example, but you've never had access to it. Your mind doesn't understand how to perceive that, to understand that. So, starting small and I think that's just a beautiful way of explaining that to us.

Speaker 1:

So I'll give you another. I didn't know that. Yeah, have you ever been to Alaska before?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Okay, tell me about Alaska. It's cold.

Speaker 2:

It's got snow and amazing people. That's all I know. Oh, bonus points for you right now. Hospitality is awesome. Yes, I've heard wonderful things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I'm from Alaska. I grew up in Anchorage. What if I told you not this year? It was a little different this year, but the year before we hardly had any snow. There was hardly any snow. Wow, that the temperatures are warming up so high that it's melting everything, that it's drop-dead gorgeous up there. I bet that we grow larger vegetables we have Guinness Book-size vegetables in Alaska than anywhere else on the planet because we have the sun up there. I get a better suntan in Alaska than I do here in California.

Speaker 1:

But when we think, oh, tell me about Alaska, or tell me about Hawaii. Oh, surfing and hula girls and all of that, that's not at all what Hawaii is and that's not at all what Alaska is. But you've never been there, so you've not what You've not experienced it. So my mind doesn't understand. It has no program for it. It has no program for it. All it can go back in in a little computer calculation is say, well, what have I seen on TV or movies? What have people said to me? But unless you've experienced it, you don't know really what it's like, right? So it's all about the power of your mind, right?

Speaker 1:

And doing podcasts like this, social media is. It's so fascinating to me because we are not at a place to where we're limited to any knowledge anymore. We have everything right here, at the tip of our fingertips, and that could be dangerous sometimes, because it's what other people believe, so I can go look up. You know, I have stuff going on with my health. I can go and look up stuff on the internet right now and one website is going to say, oh, do this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And other sites are going to say, oh, don't you dare do any of these things. One doctor is going to say this, another doctor is going to say that, and honestly, it's confusing people even more.

Speaker 1:

Is that all hypnosis? That's hypnosis, of course it is. So what's really fact and what is real and what is true? So take a deep breath in, you know. Think about who you are, think about where you are, think about the life that you want to lead, think about how you want your children to be, your family to be, your career, to be. This is your life on this planet. You came here for a purpose. You came here as a male or a female, and having this as an experience, it's just an experience. Sometimes I call this, the stupid planet sometimes, because we come here and we do stupid things. We do, but that's what this planet's for. Yeah, this is what being human is, is we're having. You know, we're spiritual beings, but we're having these human experiences and there is no such thing as perfect in human. No such thing.

Speaker 2:

It's not even possible. What do you think us humans need to know about our minds to help ourselves a little bit more Just, you know, stepping back from manifestation a little bit like you as a mind coach. What do you think, from your perspective, is important to understand about our minds?

Speaker 1:

your conscious state and your subconscious state, that you have 10% of your conscious mind that is analyzing everything, that 90% of your subconscious mind. It doesn't think. It doesn't know the difference between good, bad, right or wrong, positive or negative. It's just a program, it's a neural pathway, and that we have the power to change our mind. So that's what that phrase is Wow Change your thinking, change your life. The power of the subconscious mind, the power of positive thinking, the law of manifestation. That's all it is. Is you giving yourself your own suggestions and then making those a reality in your life? And how?

Speaker 2:

can we change the way we think? Sometimes people get stuck in these rumination. It's really tough to, and many people seek therapists and coaches. Yes, absolutely. But how? The people that can't afford that right now? How can they change that?

Speaker 1:

mindset. That's the beauty of listening to podcasts like this and being able to go on to those social media and positive, inspirational, motivational people that do have messages. There's a lot of people that I love listening to and that I follow and that you know, and they're not all doctors and neuroscientists.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. It could be just people who have from-to-earth experience and very easy-to-follow information that just makes sense or hits home for you. So, yes, if you can go get a coach, that's great. Yes, if you can come in and do some hypnotherapy or work with a teacher or mentor therapist, it could even be your grandmother, your grandfather Talk to your ancestors. Talk to the people that have been here for a long time.

Speaker 1:

They have a lot of knowledge and you know what and wisdom right. Talk to your kids, Talk to your kids.

Speaker 2:

Kids know everything. Why do you think parents think that they don't? Parents think that their kids are stupid and they don't understand anything.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Because our brains who are you to tell me what to do? You're eight.

Speaker 1:

You're eight years old, right, but you know, here's what happens with our brains. Our brains actually do not stop developing until we're about 24, 25 years old. That's what they say. Is that true? That's true because it's your gray matter and your white matter. So how your neural pathways get formed and get set. You're not done working on your brain.

Speaker 2:

That's the physical development Physiologically this is the brain itself.

Speaker 1:

This is not the mind. This is the brain, physical, yes, until you're about 25. This is why we make all those silly mistakes and we do stupid things when we're young Because our brain doesn't know the difference. It doesn't know how to fire and wire with those neural pathways. We don't have the white matter.

Speaker 2:

It's not there, and that's why kids are usually easily influenced too.

Speaker 1:

But this is also why, when you're trying to discipline your kids, you're like well, how do you not get it? I said to you you know, 15 times, don't do this. You know, don't do that. Well, children don't hear, don't that? Well, children don't hear, don't, they don't hear that, they hear the opposite of that. If I said, you know, don't, look at that thing that's on the wall right now because it's kind of doing a weird oh, so she had to do it anyway, right. But if I say don't do it, your mind is like what's going on there? So when you say don't spill the milk, you actually said to your kid spill the milk. You said to their brain that's not fully developed. Spill the milk. And the brain says okay, and then it unconsciously does that. My goodness.

Speaker 2:

Look at that power. Yeah, do you hear that, you guys?

Speaker 1:

Power. So your brain, your mind, children, they are pure energy sources, pure energy. They come in here. They see all, they know all, they hear all, they feel everything. Which is why the prayer of a child yes, they know everything that's going on with you as an adult. They see everything around you. They see energy, they do don't they?

Speaker 2:

So I've heard from so many people. I mean, people have different perspectives, but certain people say people are born really bad, and certain people say people are born good and they turn bad from bad experiences.

Speaker 1:

What's your perspective on that? I believe that we're born as that. Our spirit, our soul comes into this physical body and we come here to have an experience. Can everything else around us make us bad people? Of course You're brought up in a very difficult environment. You're brought up in an abusive environment. You're brought up in a country where there is a lot of turmoil or wars. Of course this is what you're seeing. You're seeing death and destruction and negativity and abuse and so forth. So the mind doesn't know that that's not love. And so when children get older, if that's all they've been around, then yes, they're going to start acting that way because that's the program that was put in their computer, in their mind.

Speaker 1:

So do I believe children are born bad? No, we can have genetic things that are going on, but a tiny, tiny percent of psychiatric disease or mental illness is what we're born with a tiny tiny percent. The rest is actually learned. It's all behavior modification, but it gets so ingrained in our neural pathways that we don't know any way else but to be this. So can people change? Yes, but do I believe children are born bad? No, but that's just me.

Speaker 2:

I love that. I think I have the same perspective. I think people are born blank, the blank piece of paper, and we, you know, you guide them, you teach them, and that's that we can do a whole other podcast on past life, regression and reincarnation should we set a date now set the date now all the souls what karma really is and everything that you're reading in the books.

Speaker 1:

What is karma? Karma for me, me, okay, you tell me what you is karma.

Speaker 2:

Karma for me is Me.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you tell me what you believe.

Speaker 2:

Karma is Karma for me is oh my God. I know that the more simpler way to say it is, when you do bad, it jumps back right at you. But I think that it's not just you. I think that it's from ancestors, maybe wrongdoing from ancestors, grandparents, maybe a parent doing something bad and coming. You know that, attaching the, touching the children. I don't know, that's how I see karma. I don't think it's just me making a mistake and hurting someone's feelings. I think maybe my dad could do that and then he can come and bite me. I don't know, that's how.

Speaker 1:

I see it. So that is a very suggestible state of karma. I'm going to be careful with that one, tell me, because now you're just saying everybody else around you is in control of your life. All of their actions, all of their beliefs, from now, from all ancestors. All of that controls who you are today.

Speaker 2:

Really, really. So that's them taking my power away. Basically, how can I get that back?

Speaker 1:

It's the same thing with the curse, because I work in the metaphysical realm and the spiritual realm. I do a lot of different modalities. It's a whole other ballgame but if you're saying, oh, that person's cursed, that is just a hypnotic suggestion. Could that suggestion have been passed down for generations? Yes, of course the curse, yes, that's the suggestion Our family is cursed With, whatever curse it is. That suggestion has been passed down, excuse me, has been passed down to everybody, so it just becomes a common belief system in your family.

Speaker 2:

So then, what about like? So I'm going to bring my culture into this. Like Armenians, we have genocide from the 1915. And there's a thing that is in science and in psychology and that's the intergenerational trauma that's unhealed wounds. But Armenians, we have this. A lot of us recognize this, that you know. We are loud, we are angry. We're constantly not recognized. We're fighting for this recognition. So does that mean that when we say, when we say we're carrying that trauma and we're not healed, does that mean that we're giving power away?

Speaker 1:

We are. It means what you just said. I want you to very carefully listen to what you just said. Yes, repeat those things that you just said again.

Speaker 2:

We're unhealed. We're not healed. We're angry. We're angry. We're not getting recognition, the turkey's not recognizing people in general, other cultures, other countries. Some have recognized the genocide, but majority of them haven't, and that's making us furious hurt.

Speaker 1:

You're angry. You're furious. You're not recognized. We're hurt.

Speaker 2:

We're sad.

Speaker 1:

You don't belong all of this stuff.

Speaker 2:

Tell me one positive thing you said right there about your culture Other than the fact that I'm fighting for my people. Tell me one positive thing. I didn't say anything positive.

Speaker 1:

Not one thing that you said was positive. Yes, I did not hear you say we're a peaceful, loving people. We love our families, we feel deeply, we're very committed to our culture. Not one thing that you said was positive, even though those things are present.

Speaker 2:

I didn't say that. I said was positive Even though those things are present. I didn't say that, I said the other piece.

Speaker 1:

So you my darling, you have continued that hypnotic belief and suggestion from cultures before.

Speaker 2:

That is so powerful. So, basically, because this has been said to me from grandparents on to aunts and uncles, you know the march that we do, that's hypnosis. But, these things are true, that is environmental hypnosis.

Speaker 1:

So things that happen, these are events that happen. But what you're saying about yourself and what you're saying about your culture and your country, these are negative messages. These are negative programs. Do you really want to go through your life believing that you and your culture, you're going to be an angry person for the rest of your life? Do you truly want to be an angry person? Absolutely not. But you just told me this has been going on for generations. It's what the family says, it's what everybody believes.

Speaker 2:

So, then, to be able to have this recognition, every single one of us has to change this mindset and put it out there in the universe. Basically, that's how many million of us right.

Speaker 1:

How does change take place? By believing in it. Takes place with just one person, right? Yes, takes place with you the belief in one person. And if you start believing this, and if the next person that you're talking to comes from the same background cultural history, if they're talking the negatives and you stop and say, actually, you know what, if they're talking to negatives and you stop and say, actually, you know what? I think you're a beautifully talented, amazing, lovable, wonderful person. You've just shifted what you have been manifesting as a negative message in your life.

Speaker 2:

You've just shifted that negative programming in that person, even if the person doesn't believe that it's possible, by just saying it.

Speaker 1:

What's the law? What are the laws? The law of repetition and the law of association. So if we start saying this, we start believing it. The more we say it, the repetition, the more you're going to believe it. But go back to the beginning of our conversation. What sells in society? What keeps us under control? Fear. Fear and negativity, yes, turn on the news. Negative See how many positive, wonderful, inspirational stories are on the news.

Speaker 2:

No, not one. Even if there's nothing going on in the city, they're going to make something up. We're being hypnotized by watching all those negative, even horror, movies. I don't understand Video games.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, children, video games yeah, think of the death and destruction and the murder and the demeaning behaviors of men and women and so forth, women and children and everything that are in the video games that our young, tiny little kids are watching. Look at cartoons. You really want to get me started? Let's go back to cartoons. We talk about that all the time on the show.

Speaker 2:

I love you, Michelle.

Speaker 1:

Let's look at the facts. But this is the situation, this is society. It's always been like this. We want to be peace, love, happiness planet. That's not what this planet is, I'm sorry to say. It's not what this planet is. It's not why we come here to be human. We come here to have trauma and drama and because if it was just peace and we had no stress, this would be so boring. You know, some stress is good, but constant stress and overload of stress is environmental hypnosis. And then that's why we have illness and disease. Dis-ease, right. This is why we have pain in our body and the doctor says I don't know what the hell's going on. There's nothing wrong with you. Dis-ease, dis-ease. So disease is dis-ease. Your body is not feeling at ease. Your mind and emotion cause 95% of illness and disease in your body.

Speaker 1:

Can you cure yourself with your mind, then Of course, you can I don't like to use the word cure Help yourself. We can change what's going on in our body. Of course we can.

Speaker 2:

You know what I've been reading about autoimmune disease. That it's all suppressed. It's a certain personality type and it's the people who never articulate anger in a healthy way. It's all ingrown and that's why I mean I have thyroid issues and most women do. Most women do I have thyroid issues.

Speaker 1:

Really Well. Why do most women have thyroid issues?

Speaker 2:

Because what is this area of the body? It's your voice, it's your communication, wow so you're not speaking your truth.

Speaker 1:

We're just now kind of starting to speak our truth, and how many generations and eons has that been? You know, men do this, women do that, even in different cultures all around the world. So things are changing, things are always going to be changing, but when we manifest our mental and emotional stress and it comes into our body these are called body syndromes I can literally pinpoint what's going on in your life where you have physical symptoms in your body. I'm ready. Are you ready, please? I think the audience is ready.

Speaker 1:

So there are five basic areas, okay, and we'll keep them very general. So if you have anything going on from your head and your neck around in this area, this is called decision making, from your shoulders going all the way down your back. This is responsibility we have. The middle section is your guilt and frustration. Your arms and your hands are the fight mechanism. The legs and the feet are the flight mechanism. So everything in your body is literal and we use organic language. We have to be very careful of the language that we're saying.

Speaker 1:

So if you say, oh, I got, the weight of the world is on my shoulders, well, of course your shoulders are going to start hurting If you're going to work and say I can't stand. You know my boss. He just makes me sick to my stomach every time I go and see him or her and you start wondering why you get ulcers. Oh God, my partner gives me such a headache. And you want to know why you're getting migraines. My goodness, I can't handle things. I can't put my finger on it. What aren't you letting go? What are you pushing away? What can't you move forward?

Speaker 1:

So where it is in your body is what it means Communication. Your eyes what did you see? What don't you want to see? Your ears what did you hear? What don't you want to hear? And then I'm sorry, but I break you in half.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to take a look at each side of the body. The right side of the body is going to go to left brain. So things that are going on on the right side of the body is left brain, which is more career, more money, finances, the logical, the safety, security side of it. Anything going with the right brain is the left side of the body Relationship, family, kids, culture, partners, everything. So think about what's happening in your body, really, get in tune and say you know, where am I feeling all of this? And then say what does that part of the body do, what exactly does it do? And then what's been going on in the past six months or a year, before I started noticing this, before these symptoms started to come up? Because if the doctor says literally they don't know what's going on it is all in your head and your mind.

Speaker 1:

What is your subconscious mind? What is it programmed to do? Keep you safe, Keeping you safe. So, for example, a lot of people come in and they want to do weight management. Right, Think about what you say. This is why I don't say weight loss. If you said to your mind I want to lose weight, how you say things, remember your mind perceives it. Your subconscious mind is a child. It's only about eight or nine years old, my goodness, Okay. So if you say I want to lose weight, I want to lose weight, I want to lose weight, think about it this way If you lost your expensive cell phone, or if you lost your purse or your wallet, what would you want to do? Find it Exactly. So if you say to your subconscious mind I want to lose weight, your subconscious mind is going to say, okay, well, go ahead and lose it, I'll find it for you and then I'll bring back extra so you don't do that again so language is a big piece your organic language.

Speaker 1:

What are you saying? So is a big piece, your organic language. What are you saying? So how you speak to yourself influences your level of program. So it's the power of suggestion, and what's so hard about all of this is that we're not taught to listen to ourselves.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's so important.

Speaker 1:

We're really not, you know, and we shush our kids when they say, oh, I'm feeling this or I'm thinking this, or they're trying to express themselves. Oh shh, not now, I don't have time. Oh shh, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Of course they don't know what they're talking about. They're seven. They know, as a seven-year-old, what they're talking about, but they don't know if you're 45. They don't have a 45-year-old brain. They have a seven-year-old brain that still has almost 20 years left of developing. So, no, they don't know what you're talking about. They know what they're talking about as a seven-year-old.

Speaker 2:

This goes back to it's interesting you bring this up parents trying to fix I would use that word fix the misbehaviors of their little children and why the failure comes to play here, because those kids don't really understand what that 40-something-year-old mother or father is saying.

Speaker 1:

And that's a really good point for people to see that that's brain difference If you give them just one option See, kids like options. Same thing I'm noticing with I have an elderly parent. Same thing If I say an open-ended question it's a yes or no question I'm always going to get a no, Right. Do you want to go take a walk? No, I don't want to go. Do you want some water? No, Everything's no, no, no, no, no, right. But if I pose it in the way of do you want to take a walk now or in 10 minutes, Then that gives them a sense of being in control. Little kids, do you want to clean all of your room today or just half of your room? Do you want to eat breakfast at 8 o'clock or 8.30? 8.30 is fine. Then you're empowering them, You're teaching them to start thinking, because they're always going to resist Our minds. That's what we're trained to do is resist everything that comes in. And I think exactly.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to validate what you just said. It allows them to think without us thinking for them, because then, when they get older, this is where they get stuck and it's always like I can't make this decision, I can't make that decision. It's always looking at the society and for people to really guide them, versus them listening to themselves, is letting them think at such an early age by just little simple things like this.

Speaker 1:

Yes, perfect, perfect Right, and that's why we get so confused and kids are very confused, and children are very stressed out because they don't truly trust themselves anymore to make a good decision, because there's just so much available for them to get confused with. There's too many things out there that they can listen to and watch and be like, oh well, so-and-so is doing this or they're not doing this, and so it's an overload, remember an overload of stimulus, an overload of what I call message units. Messages is a state of hypnosis.

Speaker 2:

So then, if video games are hypnosis, news is a hypnosis social media. Some parts of it could be very negative. What can people do? Because it seems like it's oxygen for everyone nowadays. You don't have social media, by the way. How do you survive? I do.

Speaker 1:

Actually, now I'm starting to feel like you've got to do social media, because I do TV and radio and a bunch of things. Yes, you know I've been in business for my gosh. I just turned 57. I've been in business since.

Speaker 2:

I was…. You look amazing, michelle, thank you that's hypnosis.

Speaker 1:

I um, so it's, it's. We didn't have that. You know, when I started doing my hypnotherapy practice and and seeing clients, I was 24, 25 years old. We didn't have social media. We didn't really have computers, we had no emails, we really didn't have cell phones. That was just kind of starting to come out and everything would have been print ads. So if you wanted to do an ad in the paper for your business which was social media back then or maybe you wanted to do a TV commercial or a radio commercial, you had to pay a lot of money for it. And so I've, you know, I've built up my private practice because 95% of, not more, of my clients are referrals because I've been in business for so long.

Speaker 1:

But when people are just starting with this business, then yes, it's important for social media to come on and to be able to use that, because you can reach more and the masses and I think it's fun. I like coming on and doing podcasts and working with other people, because if I do a TV show, it may just be on a certain time. Not everybody has access to watch it. Once it's done, it's done. You may not always be able to see it again. But the good thing with podcasts and especially with YouTube and so forth, is that it's there forever and you can go back and watch it again and you can save it and you can listen to it and you can record it and you're like, oh, let me listen to that message over and over and over and over again. So that's what I like about social media and, yes, am I getting it? Yes, all right, everybody, go on my social media.

Speaker 2:

We're going to link it.

Speaker 1:

Everybody can follow. I'll talk more about hypnosis, whatever you know what. What do you want me to talk about? Because I have so many things, and that's what's going on with me is I have so many people saying you should do a social media channel about this. Oh, no, no, no, you should do it about this.

Speaker 2:

You should, people need it.

Speaker 1:

You should do about this.

Speaker 2:

I mean people have social media for all kinds of stupid things and people follow these stupid things we need intelligent, wise people.

Speaker 1:

What do we need? So that's what you can ask your followers and people you know what people need.

Speaker 2:

What do they need? I'll tell you right now. People need to learn how to trust their gut instinct. Teach us how to do that when you know there's something in there telling you that don't trust this person. You know, just never listen to yourself and you go and do it and you're in a shitty situation. How do we help ourselves?

Speaker 1:

How can we trust ourselves to that extent?

Speaker 2:

It's that gut instinct coming from how you feel it right. Yeah, like there's this feeling. It just tells you that person's off. You're just not really feeling that person's energy, but people, I don't know. Like I'm going to speak for myself, I don't want to. You want to be a really good person and you want to give everyone an opportunity, everyone a chance to be in your life. But there's just something in you that says, not that person, but that person is not portraying anything, any red flags that you can kind of. And I'm really intelligent, like I'm wise. I can tell when I meet someone like something's off, but I don't listen to myself and I think a lot of people can relate.

Speaker 1:

Because who are you listening to? You have the hit, you have your intuition, your energy.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's telling you.

Speaker 1:

God, goddess, all that there is universe, earth, whatever you want to call it. You have this gut instinct that comes in and little hairs go up on your arm. Or, all of a sudden, your little spidey eyes and spidey ears are like something's not right.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it was a tone of voice. Maybe it was their body language, maybe it was a word that they said and something was not right. Here's the thing there's 8 billion plus people on the planet. They don't all have to be your friends. Family members don't all have to be your best friends.

Speaker 1:

Not everybody has to be your friend you don't have to take care of everybody, you don't have to listen to everybody, you don't have to do what everybody else wants. But that's not what you were taught. Women are taught a certain thing, men are taught another thing. You know, men actually have a little bit easier time trusting that gut intuition because that was okay for them to say I don't like you, no, we're not doing business, sorry, that was historically okay. But for women to say that now we're being you know the B word, there's something wrong with us. You're not kind, you're not very lovable, it's not ladylike, it's not socially acceptable, all of that.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. So then we're fighting against something bigger than here. So it's whose voice is in your head, really? Who's telling you that you shouldn't trust your instinct? If you feel something that someone's you know, you're not vibing with someone, as we want to call it today. You should trust yourself and don't initiate any conversations, just boundaries. But what's important is understanding whose voice is that? Is that the culture behind you or your gut instinct? That gut instinct? So just just trust it. Trust it, learn to trust it.

Speaker 1:

It is always right. It is always right. Your gut instinct is always right. Really, go go back and take a look at all of the times and situations when you had that thought or that feeling, or some people call it like what a little premonition. Wow, and it was actually real. You're like I knew it. I knew something was wrong with the situation. I knew something was wrong with that person. I knew this was not going to be good with that person. I knew this was not going to be good. Why didn't I listen to myself? Why didn't I pay attention? If you want to go on a spiritual or more of a metaphysical level, some people say well, those are your angels talking to you, our angel, your spirit guides talking to you, those that have transitioned on your ancestors who are helping you from the other side.

Speaker 1:

So gut instinct it's that Could be that as well. Wow, those little hits that you're getting. So I'm open to everything. I believe in anything and everything, because we are only as smart as medicine, technology, religion, science, politics allows us to be in this moment. Religion, science, politics allows us to be in this moment. So when people say, well, that's not possible, then I'll say go watch your sci-fi movies, because whatever's in your sci-fi movies, that is your next reality, that is your future. So our brains and our bodies are very capable of doing everything.

Speaker 2:

Wow, do you believe in angel numbers, the 1111s, the 444s?

Speaker 1:

Those are my numbers 1111.

Speaker 2:

I always see the 333 and then the 1111.

Speaker 1:

So these are all what I call little hits. Again, these are signs. These are little signals for you to pay attention, and if you start opening to a belief in that, then you'll see them a lot. And so that's how you can actually start manifesting things a little bit faster, because you can ask for signs God, goddess, all that there is, all angels, all guides, those that have transitioned on whatever you want to call it. You can ask for those as signs that that is coming to you. The other thing to make sure that, if you're going to start manifesting and putting thoughts into your mind of goals or dreams and desires that you want to have, also make sure that you give it a time frame. Remember that smart approach Give it a time frame, because if you say I want that brand new, red, shiny, convertible Corvette but you don't give it a time frame, your subconscious mind will say, okay, I'll get it to you in about 50 years.

Speaker 2:

So do you have to say the time to the universe too? Do you have to say it, or do you have to put a vision board?

Speaker 1:

Same thing, it's all the same thing. So you have to say it. Or do you have to put a vision board? Same thing, it's all the same thing. So you can verbally say it. Remember, you can write it down. By the way, when you write things down not typing it, but when you write things down this is an idiom motor response goes directly to your subconscious mind. So if you're going to write down your dreams, your affirmations, then write it out and give it a date, a time frame, maybe six months from now, but you have to say December 12th 2024, I will have received $50,000 in my bank account. So make it very literal. Your subconscious is like a child, so make it so simple and easy for it to understand. Don't say oh my God, I hope I get $50,000., I hope it comes to me someday.

Speaker 2:

Why is our inner child? No, I mixed it. Why is our subconscious mind so young? Our inner child no, I mixed it. Why is our subconscious mind so young?

Speaker 1:

Because it doesn't think, it doesn't use logic or reason, it's just, it's those first eight or nine years of your life. It's what's imprinted in there, it's your program, your initial programs.

Speaker 2:

The 90% and it accumulates over time.

Speaker 1:

But those first eight or nine years are everything that you experience. What if there's a lot of trauma in there? Then that becomes your program. Ooh, that becomes your belief system. One of the hardest things when people come in and talk to me about your subconscious mind and when there is so much trauma or drama or abuse and so forth, they come in and say, well, I didn't ask for this, I didn't come here to have this in my life. Why me? Why do all these bad things keep happening to me? You know, and I have some people right now that I'm working with and I'll just I'll stay in relationships right now, just keep this very general. But I've have clients that continually and continue, continue to pick the same type of person over and over and over again and then they're like, oh, there's not enough good women out there, there's no good men out there. I attract this type.

Speaker 1:

That's what I have I attract this, I get all the bad ones. Yeah, because your mind comes back and says, well, what was the very first one that you had that was significant, that made a difference in your life? And if that very first relationship that you had was not the best person or the best relationship, your mind doesn't have anything else to compare it to.

Speaker 1:

My goodness, so the next one's going to go next relationship, and maybe the first relationship was in when you were young. Maybe you were just a teenager, right? Or you're in school and you just started dating. Well, it depends on if that first dating experience was good or not.

Speaker 2:

And that programs you and gets you ready for the next and so that's called?

Speaker 1:

it's called a gestalt. That's your very first core association. And then everything along the line comes back to that core and says, well, how did I deal with it then? What do I know about this relationship stuff? Oh, let me get something similar to it. Here's apples. I'm used to having apples. Let me get some more apples. Well, let me get some more apples. There's no pineapple in here. We just had apples, and maybe you want to have a pineapple but you've had all these bad apples along the line.

Speaker 1:

You've got to break your cycle. You've got to catch it. You've got to like you said trust your intuition, your gut instinct, and we all go into relationships, we all go into experiencing, knowing what the outcome is going to be.

Speaker 2:

We are, and I know you're like exhausted because you're all these awesome information for us. But I have one last question and I'm just going to speak from I statement and connect with myself and talk to you about this. I am learning. I haven't read this anywhere. It might not even be a thing, I don't know, but I feel that and what I'm learning from my experience is that there's different types of energies and there's different types of looks that carry those energies. Let me explain what I mean, because everyone's going to be like what is she talking about? So there's a certain type of people that look the same. They might have like similar features, and there's people like that in the world. They're like wait, wow, that person looks like this actor or that person looks. So I feel like those types of people come with a certain energy type, whether it's negative, whether it's positive. Do you see what I'm saying? Are those things true?

Speaker 1:

Do you believe them to be true? Yes, okay, then they're true for you.

Speaker 2:

It's true for me.

Speaker 1:

There's your answer. It's true for you. Yes, is that true?

Speaker 2:

for everybody? No, obviously it's not going to be. But yeah, I'm kind of linking, I'm like wait, like these type of people like look alike, but they also carry that same energy type. That's so interesting. I don't know. I've experienced that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so it's a me thing, so it's a you thing, but it's an energy thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That. That's how you are experiencing the world.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that protects me, because half the time it's true. It's true Like I trust myself and it's true, I'm like, oh my goodness, this is quite interesting.

Speaker 1:

So now you have your life experience, you have your knowledge, you have everything that you've gone through and your mind is adding two plus two and you're like well, it's a four. So if I have this and this and this, it's going to equate to that and that's like you said, it's protecting you. See, you already said it, it's keeping you safe and it really does, so your beliefs are programmed to keep you safe.

Speaker 2:

And it really does work, like I've had to learn to trust myself. It was not an easy thing to do. I think obviously a master's program helped. Going into a PhD program that helped. But also reading and really learning about myself helped. Rejection helped All of these things help. Yeah, it forms who you are. It really does. So I think people shouldn't be afraid of this rejection, the fear like tackle it.

Speaker 1:

And go see Michelle, Ask yourself just what is it? What's going on? How is it affecting me? What do I want to do about it? How do I want to change it? Because you've got the power of change. And if I don't know how to do it myself, who do I need to talk to? What do I need to look up? What research do I need to have? And then be able to realize I call it the three R's being able to research, research your subconscious programming. Is it a fact or is it a program that you learned? It's been installed. Then take a look at that program, reprogram it, change it around, change it from a negative, change it to a positive, and then realize you can do anything you set your mind to do. You have the power to change your life. Yes, and if other people don't like it, that's too bad, that's too bad.

Speaker 2:

What about people that think hypnotherapy is their hypnotherapists are psychics or mediums?

Speaker 1:

Those are different. Everybody is psychic and everybody's a medium.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's a hypnotherapist and everybody is a hypnotist and everybody is a counselor and everybody is a coach and everybody is a therapist on this planet. And guess what? We're all doctors and we're all lawyers and we're all teachers and we're all policemen and we're all janitors. Don't you tell people what to do? Don't you give people advice? Don't you put Band-Aids on your children? Don't you tell people what to do? Don't you give people advice? Don't you put Band-Aids on your children? Don't you clean? Don't you clean? So we're all of these modalities.

Speaker 1:

Hypnotherapy is just behavior modification, counseling. So get out of the fear of the word hypnosis, because that's just communication. All I'm doing is communicating to your subconscious mind, and if you come in and you do a session with me, I'll put you in a state of suggestibility. You're very focused, you're very aware, your body is relaxed. You hear everything that I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I may be from Alaska, but I don't go on fishing trips. I'm not going to go in and find all your deep, dark secrets. I don't need to, because that's TV and movies. That's the scary part. That's not at all what we do. Where are you? Give me your history and where do you want to go, and then I'm going to give you suggestions in a very suggestible state. So there's no, I'm going to open the doors. So there's nothing blocking me. But they're your suggestions. It's what you want, not what I want. I don't care if you stop smoking or not, but if you want to, we'll formulate the right suggestions for you, and then I'll open the door, I'll drop them in, and when I close the door, I now have created a new neural pathway.

Speaker 2:

And what a way to finish. I love that because I think people needed to really understand what it is. Many people are scared of it. Oh, it goes against our faith and it's like, no, it doesn't even touch.

Speaker 1:

Faith is hypnosis, religion is hypnosis, prayer is hypnosis, meditation is hypnosis. How is?

Speaker 2:

faith hypnosis when you have faith.

Speaker 1:

Faith is what it's a belief system, it's an energy. You're putting that out there when you're praying. What are you doing? You're being grateful. Well, what are you doing? It's a message, it's a communication. It's communication to what?

Speaker 2:

To my Lord Jesus Christ, to whoever, whatever, whatever faith, whatever, whoever whatever, whatever, whatever faith, whatever culture, you have, whatever religion you have, you know.

Speaker 1:

And so when you put yourself in that state and you are praying or you're saying mantras or you're chanting, you know nam-myoho-renge-kyo, whatever it is that you're doing, those are hypnotic states, and when you truly believe in that prayer, that's why hands-on healing is real. That's why, when you go to big events and they're all praying, they're all in that same motivation, the same thought process of here's what I want, here's the intention of it. It can be real. Same thing if it's negative though. Wow, same thing if it's negative. So if you have enough people coming together with a negative intention, is it going to manifest? Yes, so everything is a state of hypnosis, my dear.

Speaker 2:

Wow, michelle, thank you for today. I'd love to have you on because I want to talk about life after death. Yeah, would you be down to?

Speaker 1:

have that conversation. Let me check in all my other lifetimes. Hold on, yeah, they're all coming together. They're all said yes, yeah, they're like. Yeah, we'll talk, we'll talk. I love it. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

She has humor too, which is awesome, thank, you so much I love talking to you so wise Thank you it's been fun.

Speaker 1:

And just remember, think about what you're saying to yourself yeah, think about what you're saying about your, your culture, our people and your people and what those beliefs are, and and get rid of the negatives, because unless you get rid of that negative language that you're saying, you're not going to be able to break the cycle.

Speaker 2:

Is there such a thing as a happy march, though? So if we're marching, we're protesting for a good purpose and that's recognition. Do you think that maybe changing that mindset and doing that is helpful? Versus the 1915, never again shout.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you look at Martin Luther, you know Jr King and all that. It was supposed to be peaceful protest. Peaceful protest, yes, back in the day when they're changing how people are seeing you know other people and stuff changing how people are seeing you know other people and stuff. It's Gandhi, you know it was a peaceful thing. He did the whole fasting for a long time but he wasn't killing people, he was just like I'm making a statement, john Lennon hanging out in his yes, yoko Ono. They're all hanging out in their apartment, naked, doing whatever, peacefully protesting, but in a loving way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not manifesting negative. That makes so much sense. Thank you for that. We really appreciate that. Thank you, all right.