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Ken Guoin | Water Safety, Toxic Water Risks, Purification of Water | The Edit Alaverdyan Podcast #39
Can the water you drink actually harm your health? We explore this critical question with Ken Guoin, an esteemed water scientist and engineer behind Ophora Water. Ken sheds light on the alarming presence of harmful "forever chemicals" in our tap water and the potential health risks they pose, from cancer to autoimmune disorders. As we navigate through the complexities of water purification, Ken shares insights from his groundbreaking work, emphasizing the immense health benefits of consuming pure water. This episode promises to equip you with essential knowledge about water safety and inspire you to reassess your hydration habits.
The conversation with Ken doesn't stop at drinking water; we also look into the invisible dangers of tap water used for bathing. Our discussion revolves around how pollutants, including chlorine and pharmaceuticals, are absorbed through the skin, posing significant threats to our health. Ken offers practical solutions, like reverse osmosis systems and shower filters, to improve water quality in your home. Additionally, we tackle the pervasive issue of plastic water bottles, highlighting the potential health risks they pose due to chemical leaching and the environmental impact of single-use plastics.
Ken's pioneering efforts in developing oxygen-infused nanopurified water are a testament to the transformative power of innovation. We delve into the challenges and triumphs of his journey to stabilize and bind oxygen to water, creating a product that enhances energy, skin clarity, and overall well-being. As Ken shares his personal experiences and the compelling benefits of this advanced hydration solution, we are reminded of the critical role pure water plays in our health. Tune in to learn how you can harness these insights to make informed choices for a healthier lifestyle.
If you're drinking really pure water, it's pulling and flushing the toxins out of your body and it doesn't take long. If you took my advice, quit drinking everything else but pure water you would notice a significant difference in two weeks Significant.
Speaker 2:When you go into a supermarket in Europe, what do you see first? You see meat, you see veggies. In the United States, you go into a supermarket. The first thing you see is supplement section. And that's because we heavily need it, because our food is so compromised, our water is compromised.
Speaker 1:The reality is, the restaurants want to sell you their bottled water. That's one of the reasons they don't purify their tap water. You want tap water. You're going to drink some shitty tap. You're going to get some shitty water.
Speaker 2:If you're not diagnosing her with cancer and if you removed it already, why would you give her radiation? And he said, well, just to make sure, I said would you do that?
Speaker 1:Here we are the wealthiest, richest, most healthcare in the world and we had the most sick population. Our life expectancy rates are falling, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:Hello everyone, thank you for joining me today. Today's topic was water water, particularly in the United States of America. My guest was Ken Gawain. Ken is a water scientist, an engineer, and he's the founder of Afora Water. Ken has been a water scientist for over 35 years and has dedicated majority of his life to studying water and how to purify water so that we can consume good water. That's very vital for our health. His discovery was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:We talked a lot about his invention and his discovery of Afora water, but we dived right into the tap water that we have in the United States of America, california being the worst state, that has the worst water, due to the population, of course, and the density. I wanted to talk about the United States and see if the United States was truly the country that had the worst water, and it was confirmed that we do, which is quite scary, I think, for all of us to kind of understand and relay. We talked about the purification process and what tap water contains and the chemicals the forever chemicals that we discussed that's in our water today is quite scary leading causes of breast cancer, prostate cancer. We talked a lot about plastics and how drinking water in plastics, what that looks like. What does this do to our health and the aftermath of it?
Speaker 2:We did dive into the alfora process and what is the outcome of drinking such purified water and what is the outcome of drinking not such purified water, and what is the outcome of drinking not such purified water and bathing in tap water. So his answers were phenomenal and I genuinely want everybody as a family to really listen to this podcast, because I think it's very important for everybody to know what's in their water and how to really cleanse our system with such chlorine that's built in our water even from just bathing. So stay tuned, make sure to subscribe, because it's very important and immense, support and enjoy this podcast with Ken Gawain. Such a good conversation and I know you guys are really going to be hooked to this combo. Thank you and God bless everyone. Ken, thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker 1:Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I know we've been talking for a good 30 minutes already, so we kind of have to like let's just get started. Let's get started. Yeah, we were actually talking about tap water this is the whole topic today and bathing in tap water, and so my question, my first question to you is does that absorb into our skin?
Speaker 1:Big time.
Speaker 2:Okay, so do we have like a percentage of?
Speaker 1:that, or the whole 80% of the pollutants that we come. Our skin's our largest organ, of course. Everybody knows that. So it's highly absorbent. So 80% of the pollutants we're coming in contact with every day is from bathing and showering, as I was describing earlier.
Speaker 1:When you shower in our water, chlorine is the big issue. Chlorines are known carcinogens, so when you bathe or shower, after you're done, you have a shell of chlorine on your skin. Your skin is coated with chlorine and that interacts with your organic matter in your body and it forms what they call chloramines, which is a highly highly carcinogenic material called chloramines. So all the skin cancer that's happening today and it's pretty rampant today is primarily from the chlorine in the tap water that we're bathing and showering in. So it's really important that you address that, and there's really two ways to do it, you know, for not only do we bottle our water, but we also manufacture and make systems that make our water and in terms of, at the very least, you want a good shower filter Right. They'll remove chlorine, because that's the prime problem. So, same with bathing, you want to remove that chlorine. Yeah, because, again, our skin's our largest organ and it's causing problems.
Speaker 2:Would you say that not only bathing with tap water, but also there are so many families that are not really aware of all the forever chemicals that are in the tap water. But what we discussed is there's just hundreds and hundreds of chemicals.
Speaker 1:The EPA pages and pages.
Speaker 2:In the United States of America in general, our tap water here.
Speaker 1:In particular in California, we have some of the worst water in the country.
Speaker 2:We have the worst water in the country.
Speaker 1:And the reason is, if you look at the density of California, it's pretty much on the. I mean, we have the most populous state in the country and the density of the people where we live and the density of the people where we live, you know, the hardest thing to remove from the water, the most difficult thing, is pharmaceuticals, and we have a population that's addicted to pharmaceuticals. I mean, you're bathing in my testosterone every day. I'm bathing in your hormones. I mean that's just a fact and that's not the bad stuff.
Speaker 2:What are the bad?
Speaker 1:stuff. So it's all the pollutants that's in the tap water. There's pages and pages of them and, honestly, the municipalities, they're doing the best they can to remove the pollutants. They're just not doing enough. So, like for example in Switzerland, they're using all the same technologies that we're using to purify their water. You know the Swiss, they're just kind of anal right and they do a really good job. So you can do it, but it's really expensive to remove. Municipalities would have to rebuild all their infrastructure to remove all these chemicals from the water, and there's just a lot of them. So you know, I tell people tap water is good for one thing, and that's putting out fires. You shouldn't be drinking it, I mean, and you shouldn't even your pets, I mean cats and dogs. Particularly Cats are susceptible to a lot of kidney issues. You're killing your pets if you're giving them tap water.
Speaker 1:So, as we were talking earlier, there's two ways you can address that. You can buy our bottled water, of course, which is the best and it has really really high levels of oxygen, but you can also make good water at home. You have an RO system. We were just discussing reverse osmosis.
Speaker 1:Reverse osmosis is a good place to start. But the problem with RO water is it's pretty much dead acidic water. When you remove everything from the water which pretty much RO does, it takes out all the useful minerals and some of the good stuff right. So at the end of the day, our water is dead acidic water.
Speaker 2:Which makes cancer grow right.
Speaker 1:Yes. So what we do better than anybody is in today's world. It's easy to purify water. What we do after we purify the water is we bring it back to life by what we call restructuring it. We add all the useful minerals back in, we raise the pH to 8.5. And we vortex it over a rose quartz crystal and we bring it back to life. Water has memory and it has energy.
Speaker 1:It doesn't like running in straight lines, so we vortex it, so we truly bring it back to life. So the missing component on all these RO systems that people, you're drinking pure water. At the very least, if you're drinking reverse osmosis water like you are, you want to be supplementing with good liquid minerals, because there's no minerals in your water.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the liquid IVs and the electrolyte powders and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Not really those. I mean electrolytes yeah, they're okay, I mean, but what's more important is a good mix of potassium magnesium, a good liquid mineral supplement that you can add to your water, or you can purchase a water restructuring platform from us that. I engineered that you can actually hook up to your RO system, so the water goes through the RO system first, then it goes through our restructuring platform and then you've got living water at your sink.
Speaker 2:I'm curious. You've been a water scientist for over 35 years, correct, correct. What got you into this field? You're so passionate about it?
Speaker 1:Well, what's crazy is this is all I've done all my life. So when I was a senior at the University of Michigan, I was in the Marine Corps. I grew up kind of on the east side of Detroit and I wanted to go to college and I didn't have any money. So I joined the service, got my GI Bill, went to the University of Michigan and while I was at the University of Michigan I had to do something else to supplement my income and I got in the hot tub business Redwood hot tub business. At one point I was the largest manufacturer of redwood hot tubs in the world and I ended up going into that full time. But what happened is all the university doctors at the university of michigan um, I was selling all these hot tubs and they didn't like sitting in chlorinated hot tub water. Who?
Speaker 2:didn't the doctors.
Speaker 1:So they said to me they you know, what can you do about this chlorine? We love our hot hot tub. We don't want this chlorine, so I started doing a deep dive in it and my very first patent when I was a senior at the University of Michigan was a chlorine-free pool and spa system. It was the best system then. It still is today.
Speaker 2:What year was this?
Speaker 1:This is back in the early 70s.
Speaker 1:My goodness and, honest to God, I downloaded this somehow because it's what I call the trifecta, and it was a combination of ozone, massive UV sterilization and then 33% food-grade hydrogen peroxide. So when you combine those three at the right amounts, it gives you nanopurified water which is really healthy to soak in. So you have to have an oxidizer. Chlorine's an oxidizer, so what we substituted for chlorine was the hydrogen peroxide. So hydrogen peroxide by itself the stuff you buy in a store is like 1%. We use 33%, and hydrogen peroxide really is kind of a miracle drug. It's not a drug. The pharmaceutical companies could figure out a way to make money with it. They'd be doing it. It's relatively inexpensive and it's an organic sanitizer and an organic oxidizer. The only byproduct of hydrogen peroxide is pure oxygen.
Speaker 2:How dangerous is it to consume hydrogen peroxide? Maybe like a little bit of?
Speaker 1:it A little bit of it's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I've heard, actually I've read many articles of people, data, of people who just consume one teaspoon a day. Yes, it just cleans the entire GI system.
Speaker 1:I would say once a day would be overdoing it. But certainly when you go through any kind of a detox, it's a powerful natural oxidizer. So, yeah, it's really good for your hair, skin and nails. So when you come up and soak in our hyper-actionated hot tub, it's basically our drinking water.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you come out squeaky clean because of the hydrogen peroxide.
Speaker 2:I bet. Now let's talk about what's in our water today. I think that's before we go into like a for a water and the system and how it purifies the water From all the forever chemicals. I'm sure many people are aware and if you guys aren't, it's actually really important for people to do research on these chemicals. What is the most dangerous that you have?
Speaker 1:It's the pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 2:The pharmaceuticals? Can you tell us exactly?
Speaker 1:what that means. Well, what it means is okay, the pharmaceutical companies want people over 30, 40 to be consuming four to eight different medications, like statins, and so you know, we have a society that's kind of addicted to prescription drugs, and when you start mixing those together, it creates this cocktail. It's just it's all these people don't know what all these chemicals mixed together are doing. But if you look at our general health in this country, it's a mess. Our health system is a mess, and it's primarily because of our drinking water. I mean, people are drinking this water. You know you shouldn't be drinking one half your body weight. I mean. The other thing is people aren't drinking enough water.
Speaker 1:Most people are dehydrated.
Speaker 2:What is enough water? So one half your body weight in ounces, so it's not even eight cups.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I talk to people that tell me they don't even drink water.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've met people like that and kids?
Speaker 1:it scares the hell out of me because I mean these kids are like pounding these energy drinks and I mean it's not good. You know, pure water is what flushes the toxins out of your body and God knows we live in a toxic environment. So how do these pharmaceuticals get in the water?
Speaker 1:So, you're taking all these pharmaceuticals, you're peeing. It's going to the water treatment plant. That water's being somewhat purified and then dumped into the oceans. You know, even I live in Santa Barbara, which is a really pretty pristine town. But you know, right off the coast of Santa Barbara, right on the coast of Santa Barbara, is a water treatment plant where literally thousands and thousands of gallons of toilet water is going in and then a minimal processing and then dumped in the ocean and that washes back up on the beaches, it gets in our groundwater.
Speaker 1:Our groundwater it gets in the groundwater. People think well water and groundwater is the best water, used to be not so much anymore and groundwater is the best water Used to be not so much anymore. We're actually better off because a lot of people we're dealing with have wells and they think they've got great water and like, for example, hawaii is a good example. A lot of people you go to Hawaii, you go to Maui. I mean it's pristine, right. Well, they used to have all the plantations there for tens and tens and tens of years were sprayed. All those chemicals ended up in the groundwater. Groundwater is horrible in Hawaii. It's very toxic, and when you're in Hawaii and you're consuming the water and you're bathing and showering in it, you're absorbing all these chemicals. And the pharmaceuticals are bad, but all these other forever chemicals that are in from spraying, I mean I'm driving down the road in Ojai, Ojai again is another kind of pristine area.
Speaker 1:And there's a plane spraying all the avocados with pesticides.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't even want to be driving through there when they're doing that so you know, we live in a very toxic world and, as I tell people, there's a lot we can do and there's things we can't do. One of the things we can do that is in our control is to flush those toxins out of our bodies, and that takes pure water. The best modality really is drinking pure water and doing infrared saunas I mean, that's the best combination or soaking in our hyper-actionated hot tub. It's the same thing with this sauna. We keep our tubs at 102. And you know it helps to. You know, get these toxins out of your body.
Speaker 2:What are the results of a human being living in the United States that bathes in tap water and drinks not so purified? I mean, are they prone to get cancer and autoimmune diseases Like what?
Speaker 1:are your perspective. You know people don't understand. Breast cancer is epidemic.
Speaker 2:It is epidemic.
Speaker 1:It's epidemic. We all know women with breast cancer.
Speaker 2:Every other woman.
Speaker 1:And it kills all these women. And I mean you know, it doesn't matter how much money you have, I don't know. It's like I say, if the disease doesn't kill you, the cure will. I mean you go to the best cancer doctors and the best doctors would tell you if they got cancer they wouldn't go through chemo or radiation.
Speaker 2:Radiation oh boy yeah. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1:It's all about money. It's all about money. It's all about money. You know, these hospitals, cancer pays the bills.
Speaker 2:That's such a heartbreaking realization. It is.
Speaker 1:And I mean, if you look at Europe, I mean whenever I'm buying, so like I like wine, so I like red wine, me too. I love water and I love red wine. Amen, but I buy this. It's called Dry Farms. I don't know if you've heard of them, but I mean it's low sugar and it's all organic and it's grown on small farms all over the world. And you look at one of my favorite red wines. It's a cab made here in the United States and it's full of sulfates and chemicals.
Speaker 2:And the aftermath after drinking that the grapes are all sprayed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know you can't drink wine that isn't grown organically In Europe. We don't have to worry.
Speaker 2:That's right, you know Italy.
Speaker 1:And again this obesity thing, if you look at Italy, I mean they eat all day long they do, and pasta too, and pasta too, and they're not getting fat. No, and you know it's our diet. I mean you look at our diets in this country and I mean it's to the point where my girlfriend is a real. She's a health coach and she's really into eating good. It's like we're to the point where we can't even she's a nut about seed oils Really Not having seed oils.
Speaker 1:Not having them Not having them because they're just so bad for you and they take so long to get out of your body. Absolutely, but we're to the point where we can hardly go out to dinner. You know, we were in the best vegan restaurant in Montecito last week the very best vegan restaurant. She's looking at the menu. She finally called the chef out to ask him a couple of questions and, yeah, they're using canola oil.
Speaker 2:They are using canola oil, I mean.
Speaker 1:So we had to literally get up and walk out, and I like eating out.
Speaker 2:I know me too, but it's so hard. I mean, I make my own bread now, I make my own starter. Yeah, you go out and you try to eat one of a salad and you don't know what they're putting on that salad, you don't?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, we're all better off cooking and eating at home, and it's to to the point where we can't go out to dinner.
Speaker 2:What about restaurants? And they're purified. I mean, you ask for a glass of water and you ask them is this purified? They say yes, how clean is that water?
Speaker 1:All you have to do is taste the water. Oh, it tastes like chlorine. Yeah, so it's not purified. So the reality is, the restaurants want to sell you their bottled water I mean that's one of the reasons they don't purify their tap water. You want tap water. You're going to drink some shitty tap. You're going to get some shitty water, that's right. They'd rather sell you some Pellegrino or Fiji or something. And again you know we're going to. Probably I want to get into plastics with you because that's a big issue.
Speaker 2:I was going to get yeah, but that's an exciting topic.
Speaker 1:So the short answer on restaurants is 90% of the time their tap water is not filtered. So you are better off buying their bottled water.
Speaker 2:Their plastic bottled water, that's been laying in the sun for God knows how long, which is another issue.
Speaker 1:So again, so we know the issues. The pollutants that are in the tap water. There's a lot of them. They're too difficult to remove. They can't be removed If you have a very robust RO system with a restructuring platform. That's one way to get good water.
Speaker 2:Still not the best, though Still not the best.
Speaker 1:The best is our hyperoxygenated water.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're going to talk about that oxygen piece 40 ppm.
Speaker 1:But let's talk about plastic for a minute. This is what's really causing problems with women. So water you're going to hear me say over and over during this interview, water in its purest form, is called the universal solvent. I don't know if you've ever heard that term.
Speaker 2:Never. Can you explain that?
Speaker 1:So water in its purest form, water is an anomaly, People don't. I've been in the water industry all my life. Water has memory. Water is alive.
Speaker 2:It's energy too right.
Speaker 1:It's energy and it's alive, as much as alive as trees and the plants. Wow, water in its purest form absorbs anything it comes in contact with. It's called the universal solvent. It wants to absorb. If you pour this nanopurified water on this table, it's going to start drawing out the toxins. It's called the universal solvent.
Speaker 2:Solvent.
Speaker 1:Solvent.
Speaker 2:Wow, water is pure water.
Speaker 1:Water in its purest form is called the universal solvent. So RO water. So most bottled water, 90% of most bottled water, is simply reverse osmosis water. So the best-selling plastic bottled water is Costco. So people buy cases of Costco water. It's in a really pliable plastic right. It's RO water, it's reverse osmosis water. It's really pure water. Water in its purest form wants to absorb anything it comes in contact with. So what's happening is that reverse osmosis water in those plastic bottles. It's literally sucking the toxins out of the plastic.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, it's literally drawing the toxins out of the plastic You're drinking that and because women carry a little more body fat for a lot of good reasons, those toxins are being stored in your body, particularly your breasts, and that's where you know. We have a really astute medical board of advisors and we discuss this all the time. Breast cancer is epidemic. Why is this? It's because of all this plastic bottled water I see people drink. Well, two things. Number one it makes me sick to see single-use bottles, people pounding a big bottle of plastic bottled water.
Speaker 1:I know it's going to end up in our landfill. We don't need any more of that. This is true. We do not need any more of that. But also the big issue is that all those toxins in that plastic are being drawn into the water and you're drinking that water.
Speaker 2:Do we know what's in the plastics?
Speaker 1:It's a toxic soup of forever chemicals. It just-.
Speaker 2:Again, forever chemicals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, forever chemicals, so-. I love the name that they chose forever chemicals I mean the name says it all and you know it's a sad commentary because it's the convene. You know it really comes down to. Why are people drinking? People know better. I'm always amazed when I see younger people drinking out of plastic because they know better. It has to be glass. It has to be. I agree with you. It has to be glass. Water is pure. Our water is so pure we couldn't bottle this in plastic.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, yes, I can imagine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we have bigger water companies that have been circling us making offers to buy our brand.
Speaker 2:Can you tell us which?
Speaker 1:one and I can't talk about that right now. But I don't plan on selling. But anyway all of them want it bottled, the first thing they're going to do. You know, glass is hard. I mean, we ship this all over the world. It's heavy, it breaks, reusable, it freezes. There's issues with glass, but it's safe. It's safe. It is safe, it's non-leaching. So this nanopurified water can sit in this glass forever and it's not going to absorb anything bad. Anything in plastic, any bottle of water, is our water.
Speaker 2:I was driving by Smart and Final Do you guys have Smart and?
Speaker 1:Final in San Diego yeah, Santa.
Speaker 2:Barbara, Santa Barbara excuse me. There were, I would say, hundreds just outside in the sun, like 399. And I'm just-.
Speaker 1:Just cooking in the sun.
Speaker 2:Just cooking in the sun. You know, let me say this how dangerous it is to keep water, plastic water, in the trunk of your car.
Speaker 1:Terrible.
Speaker 2:I mean it's in heat, so all those forever chemicals are being absorbed into the water.
Speaker 1:They're just. It's just creating a toxic soup.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then people are drinking that water, thinking it's pure water. Well when it was made, it was pure, yeah, and sitting in your trunk is one thing, but from bottling to getting it on the shelves is probably a three-month process.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:So that water is sitting around a long time. You shouldn't drink it, you shouldn't give it to your pets and, like I said, it's good for one thing, and that's putting out fires.
Speaker 2:Do you feel or do you agree Because I've read research on this that autoimmune disease among women are caused from all these plastics, like thyroid issues and lupus?
Speaker 1:Well, not only that.
Speaker 2:Hashimoto's disease. Graves' disease.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the bigger. So I have two young daughters. They both happen to be pregnant now.
Speaker 2:Congrats. Yeah, yeah, that's very exciting.
Speaker 1:But they had trouble getting pregnant. They had to go through the whole in vitro thing and my daughter told me you know, dad, this is all my girlfriends. Because they're all in their 30s, they're all kind of doing the same time. Because they're all in their 30s, you know, they're all kind of doing the same time, they're all doing the same thing. They're all having babies now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they're all having trouble getting pregnant, and I used to. I joke around that, you know, when I was growing up, all we had to do was look at a girl and get her pregnant and I mean this is, you know so, both my daughters. It's expensive, it's about 60 grand.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:And it's getting to the point where wait a minute. I mean, what's going on here? Why can't couples get pregnant?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my understanding. Again, talking to my medical board of really good MDs, it's just the plastics, it's the guys. The guys are, it's the problem. It's just plastic toxicity. I mean, we all have plastic in us. We know that it's in the placenta?
Speaker 2:What are other areas that are hidden? These plastics I mean, are they in like, I don't know, like clothing, food? I mean they can be right.
Speaker 1:For sure. So you know. You look at this, okay, polyester, think about this. So you know. When you were growing up, you washed your clothes. You threw them in the dryer.
Speaker 2:We didn't used to do.
Speaker 1:You know how much when you clean your lint out of your dryer every day. It didn't used to be that way. All these clothes are made in China. It's cheap clothing. It's basically plastic clothing.
Speaker 2:It is plastic. It's plastic Cancer caps, yeah, cancer caps.
Speaker 1:And then think about this. So all the washing machines go through their rinse cycle. It's all going down the drain with all this plastic in it. Again it's ending up in our drinking water.
Speaker 2:My goodness, yes, are you serious? I'm serious.
Speaker 1:So think about it. Think about all the clothes everybody's washing every day. You see the lint in your dryer and that's being a lot of that lint. Majority of it is being washed and then rinsed and down the drain. And where does that go? It goes to the water treatment plants, which again they don't do much with it and it ends up in our water supplies. So plastic is insidious. It's going to have to go away. I mean we're going to have to. You know when I was growing up I'm sorry, I keep you know.
Speaker 1:Please, yeah, but I remember my mother coming home with Tupperware. Remember Tupperware? Yeah, okay, that was the first plastic. So, we're looking at this, we're looking at this Tupperware and we're going holy mackerel, this is like the best thing since white sliced bread I mean Tupperware, right. I wonder yeah, but that was the introduction to plastic, Because I remember growing up where you know everything they cooked out of was like porcelain and glass.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And again, you know, you look at my country too. Yeah, Teflon and even cast. I thought cast iron was great to cook with, so I went out and bought all cast iron. Then I had discovered my iron levels were getting so high.
Speaker 2:I have a brand called it's all cast iron. What is it? It's a French. Oh my God, I forgot what it is. So you're saying cast iron is even bad now?
Speaker 1:Well, it's bad from the standpoint.
Speaker 2:La Crusade, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:A lot of us have. So, like all these dark spots I have on my hand, that's too much iron, that's iron, so and really, where a lot of the iron is coming from. For some reason, somebody in the food industry decided we needed iron in everything. So I mean they put iron in cereal.
Speaker 2:It is in everything it's in everything.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's true. I want to test this, but I just read the other day you can take a magnet on some of this cereal and I'll let them.
Speaker 2:I've seen that. Have you seen it? I haven't tried it but, I saw it Multiple people tried, but there's too much.
Speaker 1:So we have too much iron in our bodies.
Speaker 2:Metals and yeah.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I'm doing, again a great. I can't say enough about drinking pure water and using saunas using a sauna, taking a sauna twice or a couple of times.
Speaker 2:But it depends on the water of the sauna, right?
Speaker 1:Well, saunas are dry heat you don't really have. You're not using water.
Speaker 2:What about the steam?
Speaker 1:Steam is terrible, I tell, particularly for women. You have to stay out of steam rooms.
Speaker 2:And women like steam rooms because think about this.
Speaker 1:Disrupts hormones. No, no, no. So you're sitting in a steam room. What? What's causing that? What's water? Water, yeah. And what kind of water? Municipal water with chlorine in it.
Speaker 1:So you're sitting in a steam room deeply inhaling all that vapor it's. You can't do anything. Worse, there's there's pregnant women. You know, I go to these high-end spas and I talk to the spa directors. I'm going. You either need to shut the steam room down or purify the water. You're killing these people in the steam room and it really breaks my heart when I see pregnant women going in these steam rooms. Think about this You're deeply inhaling that steam which is loaded with chlorine, chemicals, heavy metals.
Speaker 2:And they don't bother. Do you think they know Ken?
Speaker 1:They know you think so they don't want to spend the money, and that's the problem in this country. Again, back to Europe and Italy. They don't allow pesticides. They don't, they're not using pesticides. Only America. You know, and you know we're yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you believe in organic food 100%? Do you shop at Farmer's Market?
Speaker 1:I shop at. I shop at. I shop at when I can I shop at Air One. I love Air.
Speaker 2:One. I know where. That's where you have your water.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we're their best selling premium water, but here's their business model. Which I think is so cool is they are you do not have to read labels in that store unless it's clean, it isn't in their store.
Speaker 2:I love that store too. End of story. End of story. There's one opening up in Glendale.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm so happy about that.
Speaker 2:So when I started with them.
Speaker 1:They had one store, I think they have 10. That'll be their 11th, but I mean, yeah, it's got awful expensive.
Speaker 2:But what's more important than your health? Nothing, I mean like we were just calculating. You know how much is the water at Erewhon? Was it 13 or 14?
Speaker 1:It's between 13 and 15. They actually priced our water on it. I didn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we were just calculating. I was like, well, it might be kind of pricey for people. And you said something very intelligent. You said, well, how much do people spend on Starbucks a month?
Speaker 1:Right. Let's calculate that, or on cocktails.
Speaker 2:Or on cocktails or fast food, or on Red Bull. Look at a Red Bull.
Speaker 1:If you're drinking Red Bull all day long, I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's worth it yeah.
Speaker 1:And again, the quickest, easiest health hack end of story is to quit drinking everything you're drinking and drink pure water. You will feel and look so much better in such a short period of time. It's just amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And because all these energy drinks that everybody are just pounding, I mean it's just poison.
Speaker 2:It is poison. Yeah, how important it is for water to have oxygen.
Speaker 1:Well water used to have a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 2:Why do you think they don't now? And why do you imply it to your water?
Speaker 1:It's because the water is so denatured and devitalized water. It's because the water is so denatured and devitalized. I mean, you know the water. Today, again, our water is coming from the municipalities that are doing the best they can but they're not pulling out all the contaminants and they're adding chlorine and people chlorine. Chlorine is relatively easy to remove. That's one of the easiest things to remove from water. Actually, we use organic coconut carbon to remove chlorine. It actually imparts kind of a sweet taste to the water, but chlorine just wrecks your gut biome. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2:The microbiomes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you think about it, chlorine is a super heavy duty oxidizer. It was a poison. I mean hell. They invented it in World War I is a poison gas.
Speaker 2:For what On the battlefield? On the battlefield.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's where it came from. And it just rucks your gut, I mean it kills all the good stuff in your gut. Yeah, Just like you know antibiotics.
Speaker 2:You think like me.
Speaker 1:High five to that, yeah, yeah, I was just-.
Speaker 2:Same mentality. I'm so against antibiotics.
Speaker 1:I had some surgery, you know, some minor surgery, and so they loaded me up with antibiotics. I picked them up and I threw them out. I'll take my chance. And I didn't need it. Come on, I didn't need to take those no.
Speaker 2:I think your body just heals naturally, that's right. Food and water.
Speaker 1:That's all you need. They just want to load you up with antibiotics. Well, it's big money, it's a lot of money. Again, it's big money, and they scare the hell out of you. They.
Speaker 2:They do and I had actually OBGYN on the show and he said something really interesting. He said fear is what they use to control you with.
Speaker 1:For sure, if you're not educated. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And people think. When I say educated, people think I mean go to universities, get multiple degrees. No, just read, do research.
Speaker 1:That's education to me. Yeah, so it's just like cancer. I mean they scare the hell out of people going you got to start your chemo today and radiation and I'm going. No, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, when I read that the best cancer doctors say they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't do it. Yeah, yes, I've actually interviewed a few myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting my mom. They didn't find breast cancer in my mom, but they said it's growing, it's there and it's trying to find its way. And so they did surgery. They removed that part. But then they said you have to get radiation after. So I asked the doctor. I said so you're not diagnosing her with cancer, right? He said no, but it's there, it's trying to peek through. And I said if you're not diagnosing her with cancer and if you removed it already, why would you give her radiation? And he said well, just to make sure, I said would you do that?
Speaker 1:Did you ask him that?
Speaker 2:I did ask him that Would you give your wife? Or your daughter.
Speaker 1:Good for you.
Speaker 2:And he didn't say anything. Yeah, he said I understand you're against it, and I said it's not that I'm against it, I think it's just legal murder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let your body heal itself. I mean, they removed what they could remove, and then good food and water and exercise and sunlight and just change of mindset, everything we know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, mindset's huge, god's way Huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely huge.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about the oxygen piece. Um, you were saying they so most purified water. Do they remove oxygen from the water or they're still some?
Speaker 1:No, they start out, so they start out again. The municipal water is so denatured and devitalized. In most cases there's no oxygen in it at all. So over the years, a lot of people have tried. For me, stabilizing and binding oxygen to water was the holy grail. As an inventor, I was looking for a way to do that and I spent years. I didn't crack the code on this until about 10 years ago and I filed my patents about six years ago. It's not an easy process. So when you talk about the price of our water, yeah, I understand it's expensive, but when you come up to our plant and see the amount of equipment, we have a room.
Speaker 2:I saw the picture, the size of this room. Yes.
Speaker 1:Loaded with about a million dollars worth of equipment, so it's not easy nanopurifying the water to the level that we do.
Speaker 2:It's called nanopurifying.
Speaker 1:Nanopurifying the water. We basically you have to start. You know we're using Carpinteria. We're starting with Carpinteria, municipal water, some of the worst water you know. The beauty of our process is I can bottle this water, I can reuse any crappy water anywhere in the country and turn it into our water through our, our, our nano purification process. So basically we take it down to distilled quality water and at that point we have to rebuild it. So part of the part of the whole oxygenation process, without getting in the proprietary information, is water in its purest form wants to absorb anything it comes in contact with.
Speaker 1:You're going to hear me keep saying that over and over so nano purified, and we also bottle our water cold. We bottle it about 40 degrees.
Speaker 2:Why is that?
Speaker 1:Water loves to be cold.
Speaker 2:Is it healthy to drink cold water?
Speaker 1:That's neither here nor there. We can talk about that in a minute. But in order for us to bind and stabilize the oxygen to the water, the water has to be nanopurified and cold. So when we introduce so, we have these nitrogen scrubs. So right now we're breathing 21% oxygen, right, Excuse me? Yeah, 21% oxygen. The rest is nitrogen. So when you come up and I show you our bottling room, we have these two huge nitrogen scrubbers hanging on the wall and what they're doing is scrubbing all the nitrogen out. They're giving us 99% pure oxygen and we put that through a process and then we infuse it into our water and our water wants to absorb that oxygen because it's so pure it pulls that oxygen into the water molecule and that's why it's bound and stable.
Speaker 1:So it's a complex, difficult, time-consuming process Time-consuming. Once we can scale up the volume, I'm gonna be able to bring the price I wanna get the price down to this water. And once we can scale up, and we can scale up the volume, I'm going to be able to bring the price. I want to get the price down to this water. And once we can scale up and we're going to be able to do that you know, glass is expensive and it's heavy to ship, you know, and these are things we have to deal with, but you're not.
Speaker 1:there isn't a healthier drink on the planet. I'm really proud of this water and drinking. It's important, but bathing and showering and soaking in. It is just as important.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So I tell people, the day you turn 50 years old, you should be soaking in this water every day.
Speaker 2:Why 50?
Speaker 1:years old, you should be soaking in this water every day. Why 50? It seems like when you hit your fifties, you know your body. It's when you have to, it's when you need to let go of some of your bad habits and start taking a little, taking a little bit better care of yourself. You know, for me, you know, it's not about living to be a hundred years. I want to, I want to be, I want to be vibrant and healthy until the day I die, and if that's tomorrow or when I hit 100, whatever, but if I'm not healthy and vibrant, I don't really.
Speaker 1:I'm not that interested.
Speaker 2:How different do you feel drinking your invented water versus-.
Speaker 1:And I hate talking about my age, but I'm 74 years old and I run circles around. I've got a manufacturing plant with a lot of I call them kids in their 20s and I can keep up with them.
Speaker 2:That's wonderful.
Speaker 1:No, I have a ton of energy. I'm up every morning at five o'clock and I'm exercising and you know, and I love what I do and you know, sometimes, on average, I'm working 80 to a hundred hours a week.
Speaker 2:And I love what.
Speaker 1:I do, I don't you know, so it's not work to me, but I have the energy to do that and to go out and play and do all the things I love to do as well so.
Speaker 2:So water is that impactful, then huh, there's nothing more impactful. Really.
Speaker 1:That's what I believe. If there's one thing I honestly and it's so easy to prove, you can prove it to yourself, anybody that might be listening to this stop drinking what you're drinking, whatever that is, for 30 days and just drink pure water. I'll guarantee you your eyes are going to be clearer, your skin's going to improve, you're going to have a lot more energy. It's simple and it's it's a hat that you know the beverage companies don't want you to know about. I mean again. I mean all these energy drinks. I mean I mean again, I mean all these energy drinks. I mean, come on, I mean you know you're going to get more energy drinking our you know the kids call our water crack water.
Speaker 2:So it's so energizing it is. Yeah, it's very energizing, it is. And I'll tell you something a little bit more deeper than that, and I've I've kind of observed myself drinking water. There are certain waters that the throat can't handle. I don't know if you've ever heard people say this to you, but I felt like when I drink aphora water, it glides down so easy.
Speaker 1:It's the oxygen it makes it really smooth.
Speaker 2:It's the oxygen in there, Other water. You just get kind of like choked up kind of.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's weird. I can't really explain it yet.
Speaker 1:Well, you're hydrating. So the one thing that I want to point out is with our water, you're truly hydrating. Maybe it's the first time on a cellular basis, so you know we have what does that? Mean Well, we have. So we have intercellular water and outer cellular water. You may have maybe have heard that or know that most people's outer cellular water in their intercellular water is very low. My, my intercellular water is higher than my outer cell.
Speaker 2:Is this what we were talking about earlier?
Speaker 1:No, we haven't discussed this.
Speaker 2:So, so, so like.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've heard of Dr Michael Galitzer. He's a very well-known MD. He's got a practice on Wilshire Boulevard. No, he is the real deal.
Speaker 2:He's an MD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, graduated top of his class. He ran the UCLA emergency room for like 15 years. He's seen everything, but he went completely holistic. Really, he doesn't write scripts. He will, if you need a script, he'll write one, but that's not what he does. And he's a huge advocate of aphora, obviously, but he says the same thing. It's just if people would subset, if people would just quit drinking everything they're drinking and switch to pure water, it's going to be a game changer.
Speaker 2:My goodness, yeah. Other than the United States of America, what other countries have true contaminated water? Or are we the only country?
Speaker 1:No, we're the worst by far.
Speaker 2:Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1:Just because of the density of the people, particularly, you know, if you look at a picture of the United States at night, like, let's say, the whole southern coast of California, I mean all the populations on the coast, and so all those pollutants, all that sewage, it's all concentrated in these areas and, like I said, the municipalities do the best they can, but they can't. They're basically dumping all this water into the ocean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how much can they do?
Speaker 1:basically, you know, couple that with all the pesticides. I mean we spray everything in this country. You know, I don't know the statistics on organic. I spend the money. Me too, and I have to believe the labels, but I don't know. Is it all organic?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I always think about that. I mean, I don't shop at markets, I'm always at farmer's market.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But going to like Whole Foods, I always see the non-GMO the labels and I always wonder like how accurate is this? Can we trust?
Speaker 1:I don't know that we can trust.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't either, so.
Speaker 1:I figure probably 80% of the organic food I'm buying is organic. I mean, for me it's always the 80-20 rule.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Which has always worked for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as I.
Speaker 1:But I mean, we just live in a society that's addicted to drugs, pharmaceutical drugs, that's addicted to sodas and various drinks. All our food is pretty much sprayed.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And factory grown and yes, in factory grown and that all bodes for just not good health.
Speaker 2:Also, I wanted to add and I'm thinking of little things as we're having this conversation what about the ice? Okay, let's just say you go to Starbucks and you get an iced tea, but it's loaded with tap water ice. It's terrible, it is, I just thought of it as like it melts into your drink, so it's like drinking ice green tea, but it's full of chlorine and green tea.
Speaker 1:So we have actually have hyperoxygenation ice machines that we also manufacture, so the water's nano, the ice is nano pure. Yes.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about the services that Oforaora provides. I know that you have three or four different machines that people can, so we actually purchased, yeah so my background was, you know, patented the, the technology to nano purify water.
Speaker 1:So obviously we started manufacturing the machines that do that. So we were, we were making the water purification machines first and then we got into the bottling, so we have a whole home system. So the best way to address your house in terms of drinking, bathing, showering is with a whole home system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you provide that.
Speaker 1:So we manufacture a very robust. I'm an engineer and I'm a nut about things not breaking. So all of our systems you know most of the systems you buy in the water improvement industry in three to five years are junk. You got to throw them out and get a new one Our systems I tell people you can will them to your kids because I'm crazy about things not breaking and about overbuilding and overengineering. So basically we have four different models with our whole home systems, depending on what you want to accomplish. But what we do, our most basic system is called the essential whole home system. We cut the plumbing line coming into your house and then we plumb that into our system and then into your house, so all the water entering into your home is purified. So you're drinking, you're bathing and you're showering in pure water all the water, same water that you're drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if your dog's drinking out of the toilet, he's drinking perfect water. So, yeah, so all your water, all the water coming in the house, is purified. But we take that a step further. We also, when we're selling a whole home system, in order to nanopurify the water, you have to filter down to 0.0001 microns. You know human hair is 10 microns, so it takes a lot of specialized filtration to do that. So you can drink. Our whole home systems produce bottled quality water. But your go-to part of what comes with our whole home system is an under-the-counter unit that incorporates RO, our restructuring platform, and that's your go-to for drinking water. So a lot of companies that are out selling whole home systems say, well, it's good for everything. But the truth of the matter is it's difficult removing 100% of the pollutants from the water. It takes special filtration and that's what we put underneath your sink. So your kitchen sink's your go-to for cooking and drinking.
Speaker 2:What filtrations does it need to have for it to be fully purified?
Speaker 1:Well, actually you need to start with some pre-filtration RO. So we have really hard, you know, about water hardness, the water spotting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can test it too.
Speaker 1:Do you have a home or Uh-huh, okay. So do you have a water softener in your house? Yes, okay, okay, so you know you're off on a good start. So I'm always amazed how many homes don't have water softeners?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because it doesn't make sense to have a purifier right Without.
Speaker 1:Well, you can't do it. So and here's why so we have the hardest water in the country. You've lived with hard water, You've seen the water spotting. It does Everything turns white it ruins everything.
Speaker 2:It does?
Speaker 1:I mean it ruins your hot water heaters. Anything particular hot water, anything that's making hot water, it's going to get ruined. So we have the hardest water in the country, I mean. And so I mean again you know California is basically. We're built on a rock. It's rock right. Water in its purest form absorbs anything it comes in contact with. So the reason our water is so hard all the water is flowing over all this rock in California sandstone and that's why it's so hard. I'm from Michigan and the water there is like soft. You don't need a water softener there, it's just really soft.
Speaker 2:California has hard water, though.
Speaker 1:Really hard water, because California is basically built on stone and rock and the water is absorbing that. So the first thing that happens with a good whole home system is you have to take the hardness out. You need a softener first in line. So when you purchase one of our whole home systems, if you don't have a softener, we're also going to recommend that you put a softener in first, because if you don't, what happens is it plugs up all the filters almost immediately. So all of our systems are designed so it's only one filter change out per year and we can do that. We can guarantee that by putting a softener first in line and depending on the hardness. We just did a home. Actually, susan and Jeff Bridges she's a good friend of mine and their water is so hard we had to put two softeners in a pre-softener and a final softener.
Speaker 2:Out of all the states, softeners and a pre-softener and a final softener. Out of all the states, which state has the most dirtiest water?
Speaker 1:You said Cali.
Speaker 2:but is that true? Yeah, california, really. Yeah, my gosh.
Speaker 1:But I mean look, you know, we're the most, we're the most populous state in the country and that creates a lot of pollution. And we also have the hardest water in the country and it creates problems. And I'm always amazed Most people don't. Well, I don't know. I would say maybe it's 50-50, but 50% of the population here does not have a water softener and that's just wrecking everything in their house.
Speaker 2:Do you have anyone in your life friends, family members that drink tap?
Speaker 1:water. Either they're lying to me.
Speaker 2:I do, I do.
Speaker 1:But I don't.
Speaker 2:So what are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 1:I think it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. I mean I can't. I think it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know what else to say. I know because you're-.
Speaker 1:You are, intentionally, you're killing yourself. You're gonna shorten your life.
Speaker 2:Short.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's the biggest You're gonna shorten your life and, again, life expectancy. Here we are the wealthiest richest, most healthcare in the world and we had the most sick population and our life expectancy rates are falling, which is crazy. It is, and something's causing that, okay.
Speaker 2:All these plastics, all these. You know the water, the food, these pesticides, these sprays. And you know the water, the food, these pesticides, these sprays.
Speaker 1:And you know like I keep saying to people. There's all of that right. And yeah, so you know our country, you know the manufacturers. I mean, yeah, first they took the fat out and then they added sugar and you know it's just a mess.
Speaker 2:And I feel like everything healthy is also very expensive.
Speaker 1:It is expensive, like ghee is incredibly healthy.
Speaker 2:I mean I make it at home. But for somebody that doesn't know how to make it at home, they go into like Erewhon or Whole Foods. It's like $12 a little case like this that could be very expensive for some people. Yeah, yeah, come on so it's like the things that are supposed to be not so expensive. It's good for us is things are not supposed to be, aren't?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know. My answer to all that is you know, you just have to. It's so important eating clean and drinking clean. You just have to cut back in other areas. Yeah, luxurious lifestyle I mean, yeah, I mean, we don't.
Speaker 2:The cars, the stuff.
Speaker 1:You know you don't need a Ferrari in your garage.
Speaker 2:No, I mean like look at it this way You're driving a Ferrari, but you're drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know I'm laughing because I'm at homes where there'll be two Ferraris in the garage and we're, you know, we're quoting on them a whole home system and they're going. Well, that's way too much money and I'm going, I don't know, I mean they can bury you in your Ferrari.
Speaker 2:Yeah, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:But which? Which? Or you know, women's purses, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know where, where are you?
Speaker 1:spending your and drinking clean is the two best. I mean we could cure disease if we did that oh, I just wish people understood more, yeah well they're. You know the message is getting out there and uh, slowly but surely, because you know it's like I say if the disease doesn't kill you, the cure will I love that.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard of that. I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get sick, I want to be healthy. You know you pay now or pay later, right, it's like putting on weight. It's just a lot easier not to have to lose weight.
Speaker 2:But, ken, you're so right about that, the cure will too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because what's the cure?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean look at all these medicines and ugh, I kind of you know, if you got to go to the doctor you're kind of screwed. I mean, I don't know, I've got some really good MD friends, so you know if you broke an arm or you got this, you know, yeah, there's certain issues I mean yeah, but in terms of general health. Your doctor isn't gonna educate you on that. They're not educated, for God's sake.
Speaker 2:Yes, look at all the hours they spend in medical school. What do they teach them?
Speaker 1:University of. You know I'm from Ann Arbor, michigan. U of M and surrounding U of M is all the pharmaceutical companies, the big ones, yeah so, and they're all funding the medical school. U of M's got a great medical school, but the doctors are. Look it used to be, you go to the doctor and they ask you to stick out your tongue. They don't even do that anymore.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:You go, what's your problem? And okay and get the pad off. Fast, quick, they've only got 15 minutes, that's right.
Speaker 2:Let me ask a very important question that I think all parents would appreciate. Now, I'm a very anti-vax person, but there's people that watch the podcast that are very vaccine-prone people and they like that. So if the people that have vaccinated their children are now thinking about maybe detoxing, do you think like good purified water can also help with?
Speaker 1:heavy metal detoxation 100%. I don't know a better way I don't know a better way. And yeah, I mean, if mothers really want to enhance their family's health, get off all the stuff. I like coffee. I have one cup of coffee.
Speaker 2:I used to pound coffee all day. Well, actually there's studies that it helps. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:So I drink mud water with a mixture of coffee in it. It's my energy drink that I do every morning.
Speaker 2:So it helps with detoxing the body and whatever Flushing out.
Speaker 1:Flusushing out, Flushing out Again, I hate to keep using this term. Water in its purest form absorbs anything it comes in contact with. If you're drinking really pure water, it's pulling the toxins out of your body. It's pulling and flushing the toxins out of your body. Think about that and it doesn't take long. The really interesting thing is how quickly, if you took my advice, quit drinking everything else but pure water, you would notice a significant difference in two weeks Significant.
Speaker 2:What do you think people will see? What are some results that you're-.
Speaker 1:Your eyes and your complexion.
Speaker 2:Really Eyes.
Speaker 1:Eyes. It's amazing how it clears up. Your eyes are much clearer.
Speaker 2:Your vision.
Speaker 1:Not so much your vision, but-.
Speaker 2:The look of the eye you mean.
Speaker 1:Okay, so one of the reasons that I know your oxygen levels are High, high is you have really clear, bright eyes. Oh, your eyes are an indicator of your overall health.
Speaker 2:No way yeah.
Speaker 1:So the first thing you'll notice is your eyes will clear up. You'll have whiter eyes, your eyes are whiter.
Speaker 2:So that's when you were talking to me about what is it called the oxygen levels in your body. Yeah, that's what we're. This is what it helps with. It's the oxygen in your-.
Speaker 1:Purified yeah, purified water that has. So the best overall indicator of your overall health is your oxygen saturation.
Speaker 2:There you go. That's the word I was looking for. It's oxygen saturation.
Speaker 1:So you know again anything above 95% saturation means you're healthy. And every point above you know 96, 97, 98, 90, it's huge.
Speaker 2:That's a big deal. It's a big deal, great, it's a big deal. So we want people, even kids, to be around 95.
Speaker 1:I would say you're a 98.
Speaker 2:Me yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm really good at guessing. Yeah Me, yeah, I'm really good at guessing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so kind of like guessing the weight.
Speaker 1:I can't guess weight, but I can guess yeah, so your eyes are so clear and your complexion is really, so you're doing a lot of things, right.
Speaker 2:Because I have really clean water and I drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I actually did use. I'm going to get to this, but I made my. I bought vegetables from farmer's market and I made my own kimchi at home with a furrow water.
Speaker 2:The water is incredible, yeah, but with good salt and some garlic peppers and. I just let it sit, you know, for the ferment for about three weeks. It's so delicious we call it tattoo in our language. It's our own kimchi. Yeah, but it tastes phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Well, this water will enhance, so like just the water absorb. Again, this water absorbs the flavors.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's a big difference.
Speaker 2:It is. I swear to you, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1:And I love soups.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it makes incredible soup.
Speaker 2:It does and it's very. It just feels good. You keep wanting to drink it when you drink the water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm to the point like just to, for an example. I mean I won't even boil eggs in tap water.
Speaker 2:I mean I why would you do people really do that.
Speaker 1:Boil eggs in tap water For like hard for hard boiled eggs when you're making hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 2:Really, I've been doing it in clean water my whole life, I don't know. Okay, well, that's good.
Speaker 1:I mean you know you don't want to boil your eggs in polluted water Because you're going to crack it and it's going to get on the egg.
Speaker 2:It doesn't, and sometimes it cracks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, so you don't.
Speaker 2:I'm petrified of tap water.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you're, you know you're, you're investing in it, it's an investment.
Speaker 2:I am, and it's not.
Speaker 1:it's not it's not inexpensive.
Speaker 2:It's not easy, I promise.
Speaker 1:You know I, you know I, I, I, I take all these supplements every day and I get, I get tired of it. It's very overwhelming.
Speaker 2:But you know what you you look. Have you been to other countries before? I'm sure you've been to Europe. So when you go into the supermarkets, like, for instance, I have three, four relatives that live in Belgium and I love Belgium. I go there and I walk into a supermarket. When you go into a supermarket in Europe, what do you see first? You see meat, you see veggies. But when in the United States you go into a supermarket, the first thing you see is supplement section. Yeah, yeah. Have you noticed that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's the supplement section.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's because we heavily need it, because our food is so compromised, our water is compromised.
Speaker 1:Well, and I think people are looking for an easy fix If all those supplements you're taking, if you put those away and drink this water you'd be way healthier.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, my kimchi is phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love kimchi. I should have brought you some. I got to get some of that.
Speaker 2:Well, you're here tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll bring some.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll bring some for you One o'clock, right? Yeah, I'll bring some you have to try.
Speaker 2:It's so healthy and the water is just so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So one good news is you have the Kardashians that utilize a 40 water, so tell us about that.
Speaker 1:Well, it's kind of fun. It's a funny story actually, because, yeah, so they were always calling they do a lot of these events. They'll rent a big mansion in Beverly Hills and they do these big events. And so they are always calling wanting our water. That's amazing. They wanted me to pay them to bring my water. I go, I'm not paying you to bring water over there. So this went on for years.
Speaker 2:They finally called and said- they wanted you to pay them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anybody that comes to these events. There's a lot of different vendors. I mean you have to pay it's pay, it's pay to plan and I just wasn't going to do that. They finally called and said okay, you don't have to pay, and I said well, I mean that's nice, but you're going to have to pay me something for this water. It's expensive water. So, as far as I know, I'm the only vendor that is actually being-.
Speaker 2:Let it be known.
Speaker 1:And God bless them so yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like that helped the name of Afora? I don't.
Speaker 1:It all helps. But one of the cool things about Afora is we don't do very much. We don't do any marketing or advertising really.
Speaker 2:No, you don't.
Speaker 1:But we have a lot of celebrities, particularly a lot of athletes, and we have so many NFL players that are drinking we're shipping right to their locker room.
Speaker 2:Bottles.
Speaker 1:Bottles and yeah. So it's interesting. I get calls from sports agents all the time going. You know I see so-and-so with your water and my guy's interested. You know we want to talk to you about. You know we'd like your water and we want to see what you'd be willing to pay to have our athlete drink in your water. And I'm going well, none of these guys, I don't give this water to anybody. They all pay for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:And they're always shocked. And then they talk about our water.
Speaker 2:They actually will on social media without me compensating them.
Speaker 1:So I like to point that out, because I'm not paying any of these athletes, these pro athletes, and we've got some pretty significant actors and so we have an interesting we have a lot of celebrities who love our water and they freely talk about us and yeah, so that all helps. It does, yeah.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, Ken. I've learned so much. I think we've all learned so much about water. I think it was very important to cover the topics of tap water first.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know the purification process.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So is there any water out there that, if you didn't have a for a water with you, is there any other water that you would drink? Yeah, yeah. So you know, I'm traveling all the time, you know usually when I'm going someplace, I'll ship.
Speaker 1:if I'm going to be there, I'll ship water, but when I'm traveling and I can't I mean your. Your go-to is always water and glass. Glass, yeah, and you know, pellegrino, I mean any, any, any water that's bottled in glass is going to be your go-to water.
Speaker 2:I agree, Spring water yeah and yeah.
Speaker 1:Bottle and glass spring water, that's probably your.
Speaker 2:Best, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:So you know you're hydrating with pure, healthy water, yeah, yeah. Just stay away from the plastic. You've got to stay away from the plastic. Does it make sense to add electrolyte powders or powders with magnesium and all those vitamins?
Speaker 2:to add those.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of useful minerals magnesium, potassium. They're all in the water.
Speaker 2:They're all in the water.
Speaker 1:And because this water is nano pure and hyper-oxygenated, you are hydrating on a cellular level. And again, I don't know, we didn't get into it too much, but I think we got off on another tangent. But my intercellular water is higher than my outer cellular water.
Speaker 2:So talk to me about that. We have time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So Dr Michael Galitzer, when you see Michael, he does all these organic tests on you, and so I have a report that shows my intercellular and my outer cellular water. My intercellular water is higher than my outer cellular water, and that's an anomaly.
Speaker 2:Is that supposed?
Speaker 1:to be that way. No, Because the water today has so many pollutants in it that it can't penetrate your cells. This water is penetrating. For the first time in your life you're hydrating at a cellular level.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1:It's a big deal. It's a big deal. So one of the reasons I'm as healthy as I am and as vibrant as I am at my age is that I'm truly hydrating on a cellular level. I've already drank a half a gallon of this water today and I'll drink another half. So I drink a gallon a day, and I've already soaked this morning in my hyper-oxygenated spa. Wow, so my oxygen levels are up there.
Speaker 2:What is a normal inner cellular level of a person that's not consuming water that's oxidized?
Speaker 1:The inner cellular, so the numbers are my outer. I wish I had it with me, but my outer cellular is like 43, and my inner cellular wire is like 46. Are there?
Speaker 2:tests that doctors can do this. Yeah, yeah, what are they called?
Speaker 1:So Michael Galitzer has this profile.
Speaker 2:He can run them.
Speaker 1:He can run them, he's a great doctor, he loves to work and he's not going to retire anytime. That's my biggest thing right now is all the great people are retiring.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know what you are the study yourself, though. Yeah, you are For sure You're drinking this water and you're like, look, these are. I'm a classic example. These are my studies, these are my results. Yeah, see what it can do to you when you soak in this water, when you drink this water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and again, I love people. I think we have the best water. But look, you can buy great glass bottle of water and just don't drink out of plastic, especially women. The message has to be I tell guys all the time if you love the women in your life, you've got to get them off plastic, end of story. And it's just a damn. It's the convenience factor, because I'm always asking myself why People know better. Why are they doing this? It's just so much easier to pick up a plastic bottle of water.
Speaker 2:I mean it's so affordable and it's there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then toss it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you toss, it.
Speaker 1:But look at you know, there's just too many good reasons not to do that. And again, women suffer more from compromised, denatured water than men. I mean, like I don't know why that is Because women carry more body fat and the toxins are stored in that body fat. Yeah, and that's the whole breast cancer thing. I mean, look it, I've been around a while now and I've seen this. When I was in my 20s and 30s breast cancer you didn't have to worry about the women in your life dying of breast cancer. I don't know, it's just-.
Speaker 1:Now it is it is, and plastic has a lot to do with that, just as plastic has a lot to do with women not getting being able to conceive. Yes and I hate to see this. You know, again, the medical community, it's big money, it's 60,000 bucks. You know, are we going to get to the point where you know this is the way you get pregnant? I mean, I don't know. I'm going down a whole tangent here.
Speaker 2:Science no, but these are the topics that people need to talk about and hear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so, but women need to not drink out of plastic. End of story.
Speaker 2:And that's my message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we'll kind of part with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's a beautiful message.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, Ken.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, we appreciate you yeah.
Speaker 2:Good topic, good conversation and hopefully we'll have you on soon again, it'd be great.
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