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Join us as we explore the profound topics of the afterlife, the nature of souls, and the insights given by Artur Tadevosyan, a channeler with a unique ability to communicate with spirits. At the intersection of spirituality and mental health, this episode offers enlightening perspectives on love, guides, and the life's complexities we all face.

- Insights into the afterlife and soul journeys 
- Discussions about duality and the importance of love 
- How channeling impacts emotional well-being 
- Perspectives on schizophrenia and spiritual awakenings 
- The significance of reincarnation and personal evolution 
- Understanding the roles of spirit guides and angels 

Make sure to subscribe to the channel because it's immense support and I appreciate you wholeheartedly. Thank you for tuning in. Enjoy this podcast with Artur Tadevosyan.

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Speaker 1:

And then right after and she went to the dark place. I saw the place like kind of a almost like a jail cell, but with no light and dumpy place. She was sitting there and scared and didn't understand what's happening, why I'm here regretting what she's done. And then, after a funeral a week later, boy hanged himself. Same tree after a funeral week later, boy hanged himself same tree hello everyone.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for joining me. Today's episode is with ar Arthur Tadevosian. Now Arthur does not live here, he lives in South Africa and he is an amazing human being and such a great person and wonderful guide. I loved our episode because in this episode we talked a lot about the afterlife. We talked about souls. We talked about what happens when we pass, what happens to our ancestors. Can we see them? Can we feel them? Do they talk to us? We talked about guides. We talked about angels, we talked about guardians, and so I know that a lot of you are religious and you don't really believe in this part of the world, and but I just wanted to bring him on because I think he's such an amazing, knowledgeable individual and such a wise person and I I definitely believe, and I I know that there's people out there who do have this sense and who who sixth sense, if you want to call them, and they can honestly feel energy, feel souls, and so I'm such an awe of this episode because he puts a lot of the things that I was believing and questioning into perspective, and so I think he really does help a lot of individuals with that are stuck and that really want answers and I'm just honored he accepted my invitation. He was on my show. So definitely look out for this podcast If you do want to talk to someone who has these abilities. And what's interesting about this episode? That he said schizophrenia in there and I want you guys to really hone in and listen to what his perspectives were of this, of this word, and so enjoy. But we do not want to go before.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Tadevosian Arthur are you nervous? No, no, I get used to it already. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know Che.

Speaker 1:

In the beginning I used to sweat, yeah, in the beginning it wasn't easy.

Speaker 2:

Very hard.

Speaker 1:

I know. No, it's okay.

Speaker 2:

It's not. There's like a lot of people like looking at you, following you, really like your words matter, so it's a big responsibility.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what I feel. You have to wear your words before you say something and then it can resonate. I don't know, sometimes people get upset, should I say? But then generally, like 90% are welcoming this knowledge. So many people are asking what is it? It's belief. I always say this is not belief, it's just the knowledge. And when they ask where this knowledge come from, we call it fifth dimensional consciousness, when you know what you need to know without knowing anything. Not what you want to know, but what you need to know without knowing anything. Not what you want to know, but what you need to know. So, on a need-to-know basis, I'm doing downloads basically every day, and then the questions are what is most important?

Speaker 1:

Because, I can ask many questions, but you cannot ask all of them, because to me, knowledge is infinite and when somebody appears and asks the question, I say I never thought about it. Okay, let me think about it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it comes next morning. But yeah, so this is where I am now. In the last 10 years I can say yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so my life is changing drastically. I'm thinking now I'm closing my factory, it's taking completely me. I just can't be in two places anymore. I just I have to prioritize what I'm doing now and this is not. It's like the universe pushing me into this, onto this path.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well, I'm already a long time, arthur, when you are so mindful.

Speaker 1:

Do we call them channels? Is that what we call them? Yeah, it's conscious channeling.

Speaker 2:

Conscious channeling. Yeah, that's exactly what we call it. When you are in your conscious channeling, I just imagine, do you ever get tired, Like are you ever mentally just drained and exhausted?

Speaker 1:

You know where I get drained when I'm doing sessions, and I'm doing two to three sessions a day. I get drained when they're asking to check on someone who committed suicide or someone who is on the other side, but in a low dimensional realms they can't reach me. I have to go to reach them. So basically you're going into the dark places and then you're trying to get information where they are, what they're doing there, and especially when it's not one person they want and they're asking another person, another person Like when I thought on a fourth person I feel like I have no more energy because some clients, they just they got this 45-minute opportunity to find out about all their relatives on the other side and they're using it to maximum and this is what drains me.

Speaker 1:

But when I reach out to someone in a high-dimensional realm, like someone who lived righteously and they're in the light, it's such a pleasure to be around them Me too. Sometimes they step into my room, sometimes they can step. Almost. I feel like I'm becoming them, because it's so much love pouring through me to the person I'm talking. I just want to grab the cell phone and to hug them. That's the feeling coming when they're missing so much each other. The strongest connection is love. Yeah, and that is very rejuvenating. I'm like 45 minutes. I'm not even feeling better, so it's sometimes right, it's like I learned.

Speaker 2:

I learned that, uh, from reading about spirituality, that it life is about duality, when you give energy but you also have to take energy. So if you're constantly giving and giving and giving to your clients and it's like negative realm, what is that going to do to you?

Speaker 1:

That's a good question, because they're always teasing me. I'm structured, I'm wired differently, like, if you tell me who I had a session in the morning, I won't be able to tell you. It just comes and goes completely. Even my room during the session in the morning I won't be able to tell you, it just comes and goes completely. Even my room during the session sometimes gets filled with the spirits. I can see spirit guides, I can see person from other side. They're like all around here, session's gone, they're all disappearing. That's how it works, gosh, and it helps me. It's helping me. Nothing actually settles and God forbid if I had someone connected on the other side who committed suicide, and Grace always want to know, asking if I tell it will stay with her forever. She cannot forget it. So I try to give as much as less information as possible. Yeah, because she's very empathic.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's one of the questions that I have, because I have read a lot about orchid children I think they're called indigo individuals where they're just so sensitive and in tuned. But we'll get into that later on. What I want to know is what has led you to be in this space Like? Were you always connected to the other side, as we call it?

Speaker 1:

No, I wasn't what happened.

Speaker 2:

One thing I know from young age.

Speaker 1:

I know one thing Many times I used to get sick, very often when I was five, six years old, and every time when my temperature was coming hitting 40 degrees, we call it zarantzel. I don't know how you say it in English.

Speaker 2:

Hallucinations from the high fever.

Speaker 1:

Hallucinations. And when I was coming back, first feeling was I was so disappointed I wanted to die. I don't know why. There always was a blue door for me there on a white wall, and I was always trying to find the door. It was a time I was reaching, almost opening the door, like to go back where I come from. And then, as I grow older, the door has disappeared, but the feeling is still there. When I get sick I just want to go, I don't want to come back.

Speaker 1:

And when I came to South Africa I was employed by a Portuguese man who was very spiritual and he's the one who started to speak to me. It suddenly is like he flicked the switch in my head, in my brain, and then, whatever he was telling me, I was like a sponge, listening, listening. And then time comes I realize there is more to it. But I didn't know a way to get information and I start to it. But I didn't know a way to get information and I started to read.

Speaker 1:

But being in an English-speaking country, I didn't have any English. I had no English at all. So I started to read philosophical books. I thought I would find my answer there. So I went through all philosophical books, all religious books, everything I could get my hands on, and still I wasn't finding answers. And then I started to find spiritual books, still wasn't satisfied. And then I asked myself, what the hell am I looking for actually? And I realized I want to know what happens once we cross over, because I knew, always knew, that I got something to give, but I don't know what is it. I had no idea.

Speaker 2:

That's okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it was. Yeah, the biggest download happened in one day. I heard a voice in my head Like I had like two people talking to each other and it wasn't scary. It was like interesting, like you connected to someone, like tipping into someone's conversation on the phone, and then I realized I need to write down whatever they're talking about. So I grabbed the pen paper and started to write without knowing what the hell I'm actually writing.

Speaker 1:

And then I the English method language. I can't spell English word to save my third language at the counter. Spell English were to sell my life, but it was coming in English. That was too forced to write in English. And I've the first chapter of my book I wrote without even knowing if I were going to be able to read it, what I'm writing, because I didn't have glasses. The grace was upstairs and then when I finished, the Grace put my glasses on to see what did I write there and she came up and said what happened? I said let me see. And I said I managed. I can read whatever I wrote.

Speaker 1:

First I thought it would be dialogue between two characters, something short, like something I would like kind of channeling is given to me so I can learn more. But then it's become so hectic I was writing day and night, in the middle of the night like I couldn't wake up until three o'clock. Keep writing, writing, and it's getting. It's like six, seven months later first book was done. When I finished I said thank you very much, I've done what you wanted me to do. Can I have my life back? Because I was writing everywhere, like in a cafeteria, in a restaurant, at work. My work was suffering, I couldn't be in a factory. So, um and I, I and they were stepping into my life, like taking completely over me, and everything they experienced I was they make put me through. I could have laughed, I could have cried. Grace thought I'm losing my mind. She was very worried about me. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking too much, okay, no, no no, this is very interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when I finished the first book, in between chapters in my manuscripts, the poetry kept coming. I was writing a chapter and one poem Poetry. Yeah, poetry kept coming. I was writing a chapter and then one poem Poetry. Yeah, in English, a chapter and then poetry, and then sometimes characters were speaking to each other in poetic form, like kind of a Shakespearean, kind of a. It was also weird. So I'm writing a poem poetry now, and then it goes to the normal way of writing. It was a now and then goes to the like I don't know what's the normal way of writing and they're like.

Speaker 1:

It was crazy experience and I asked myself what the hell is going on? Who is this? And I wrote down one next to you speaks through you, and then I realized like someone there standing speaking through me and delivering message. So every character steps into the book, I feel their presence, I could hear their voice, I could see their dialect. They all had specific way of speaking. Yeah, and Italian, portuguese, the accents, and then Italians was using Italian words which I didn't know meaning.

Speaker 1:

So when I finished with the first book, I asked my daughter, eva. I said please, eva, just type in the proper English so someone else except me can read what I wrote. So she was typing and she kept saying look look up to the word. And I said this is what I hear. She said there is no word like this. I said this is what I hear. She said that there is no word like this. I said please check it. It should be, and then she could have googled. It says, yeah, there is an English word, but no one using these words anymore. So this strange words keep coming, which I had to write without knowing even meaning of those words.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it was like kind of a crazy experience. No, it's. It's, it's very pleasant. It was a pleasant experience. You feel like you're guided, you feel like this warm energy around you and every time before I was writing in this room, I hear this knock and I know it's time to write. And when it's done with the channeling, I hear this and I know it's over. So it was constant interaction with the channeling. I hear this and I know it's over. So it was constant interaction with the spiritual world, with those who had.

Speaker 1:

Basically, I realized these are the people who once lived on the planet earth and they crossed to the other side. Now, through me, they was trying to give to the public, to the people who read the book, their life story, story of their life, what they went through when husband died and crossed over and wife stayed behind, how they interact with each other, what husband was experiencing on other side. So basically it's a novel. So when I finished with the first book I said thank you very much, I'm done. I kind of wanted my freedom already. And then four or five months later I realized I was coming back again. So it's not over, now you have to write again. And I said, great, seems like the second book coming, I have to write. She said, okay, I understand, just keep doing. And then let's see what will happen. And I realized you will understand this and I realized you will understand this. I was drawn into the Lenina Gunn earthquake.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my gosh Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'll do this once again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Basically the story of one family who went through the experience and a young man who experienced loss, of one family who went through the experience and the young man who experienced loss of his family, his pregnant wife and daughter. And they come through the second book and that was very difficult for me to write. It was becoming personal and because I was present, I saw what happened there and they, like was using all what I emotionally went through it went into the book, but through their perspective, through the perspective of spiritual world, what happened to those who crossed over in that moment, how they get separated from their body and where they went. So, yeah, that was the second book. It was difficult but I finished it.

Speaker 1:

It took about two years to write and then when I realized there's nothing else to give, all right, a couple of months later again I felt there's more coming to it and I kept writing and then, in the middle of the third book book, everything disappeared. Voices were gone, images because it works with voices and images, dialogue was very easy for me to write because I could hear what they're talking about. It's kind of a schizophrenia, but control schizophrenia, you can let them in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is what exactly it is, but I could control them. You know, like, if I don't want to write, I don't. Yeah, this is what exactly it is. Yeah, but I could control them. You know, like, if I don't want to write, I don't, I would say okay leave me alone.

Speaker 2:

That is so interesting.

Speaker 1:

And in the middle of the third book, yeah, stopped for seven months, dead, quiet. Now you feel like lost child, you know, like you had all this uh energy around, protective energy, guiding energy, and then suddenly everybody left you. I was lost. And then grace keep pushing me, aren't you going to finish your book? I said grace, nothing to write. I could have sit with, like, like, anyway, that, just give me anything, not not one word.

Speaker 1:

And then I remember I was in a bookstore and I find myself in front of the section of the religious books and I look at the Bible. I said I realized I didn't read Bible in English. I said okay, let me. I feel I need to buy the Bible. I said great. So she said Bible. I said yes, okay, I said that's fine. Tell me about the Bible. I said Grace. I said Bible. I said yes, okay, I said that's fine. The Bible is on my table now and I start to read it and I feel I need to read the New Testament, the four Gospels Mark, matthew, john, luke. As I finish four Gospels, voices come back, but with such a force and such a power.

Speaker 1:

And then I realized I have to write about Christ. And it was a shock. It was kind of scary because for me, christ was just. I didn't see him the way he is. I thought he's just another messenger, another prophet who came share with his wisdom, with his knowledge. We picked up on it and, yeah, we created religion. And then, when I started to channel him, it was the most unbelievable experience. I was crying. I felt his presence in my room. I know it's only a tiny part of his energy. No one can handle that much love. No human can. It's just a tiny part of it. Energy was enough for me. Like you, want to go on your knees and to grab his feet and just to cry, like a child who finds his lost parent. This is the feeling you're experiencing in his presence.

Speaker 2:

What was that?

Speaker 1:

feeling Until now I'm getting overwhelmed. I was writing about three, four years ago, but it feels like it was yesterday. He's humongous, he's power, he's love. He's forgiveness. He's everything I understand. He's God. He is forgiveness. He's everything I understand. He's God, he is God. I never saw him as a God and then I had a dialogue with him.

Speaker 1:

The half of the book is just questions and answers, questions and answers. He took me around. He showed to me his reality, his non-physical world, how it's structured, how the souls arrive to his reality, how they get accommodated, educational process, where they go. And then I always was saying I don't believe in hell. There is no hell. There can't be because God is love.

Speaker 1:

And then, in the duration of conversation, a word came around and I said but I'm sure there is no hell. He said do you want to see it Before? I said is there hell? He just grabbed my hand and pulled me down and we flew down and I'm falling down. I don't know where I'm falling to. And I realized I'm falling to the planet and I see it's getting bigger. I realize I'm falling onto the planet Earth and I just praised myself. I said now it's going to be a horrendous impact. This is what I'm writing and I'm feeling and I'm seeing these pictures.

Speaker 1:

And then the moment was what impact was going to happen. We just went through the planet Earth, through the crust, into the center of the planet Earth, and then we arrived to the humongous doors and it was kind of scary. And then we pushed the doors open under the heat. I said no, this can't be. All my life I knew there is no hell. And when I asked him, how is it, how it can be, how you can create this? No, no, no. He said we didn't create this. Humanity created this by believing into something you manifested into reality. And for thousands of years we kept maintaining this place because those souls who believe they belong to hell they always end up in hell, no-transcript.

Speaker 2:

By just being bad and doing bad things.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it's by judging yourself harshly, believing that you're not a righteous person and you don't belong to heaven. This is enough to end up in a bad place. It's not all bad people.

Speaker 1:

Self-criticism. He showed me seven levels of heaven, very similar to what Dante Alighieri was showing in his Divine Comedy. Very similar Seven levels, but it was going like spiraling down. And I asked who is on the bottom level? They said this is the souls, who are basically beyond repairing. I said what's going to happen to them? He said there will be the source. The creator will take them back, they will be diluted into energy of source, supreme creator. And I said isn't it going to affect him? He said no, it's like a drop of the dirty water into the ocean. It's not water into the ocean, it's not. This is the one who, mentally, beyond fixing, beyond re, how do you say it, yeah, beyond repair, beyond repair.

Speaker 1:

They've done so many bad things. They've done so many bad things like they are.

Speaker 2:

To themselves.

Speaker 1:

They cannot forgive. Now to the other people. You see how the fourth dimensional reality is structured. If you hurt someone, you caused someone physical or emotional pain. On other side you have to experience same thing. This is we call educational process. This is how we learn. And um, they show me a german officer who was responsible for one of the gas chambers he was sentencing. They showed me this concentration camp where they're taking Jewish people to the gas chamber and every person he sentenced to it. He had to experience what they experienced. And when I look at him, I spoke to his spirit guide experienced. And when I look at him, I spoke to his spirit guide. They said we don't think he can. He will come right out of such a horrendous experience. So this type of souls, they can't be repaid.

Speaker 2:

So does that mean that the people who commit suicide also go there?

Speaker 1:

Let me give you a story of no, there is not one place where people go. It's not one-dimensional, it's 7 billion people, 7 billion places to go. Fourth-dimensional reality, which we call metaphysical world, is humongous. It's at least 100 times bigger than our physical world. So let me give you an example. I'm telling you the story for the permission of the family who reached me.

Speaker 1:

Mother called me from Norway and said we want to have a session with you and I said what is the problem? And they were in a hurry. They said please, we need it quickly to speak to you. She said we had the Romeo and Juliet story. I said what, romeo? What are you talking about? She said my son was in love with the one girl, 15-year-old teenagers. She committed suicide and he killed himself right after. Two weeks later he went after her. Please tell us what happened, where they are, we want to know. And then I saw them in a good place. I said they show, like they show me where they are now currently. And then I told them they're in a good place, they're together. Like he had to go and because she went, the love was so strong he couldn't stand behind. So that session was done, she was very positive.

Speaker 1:

And then months later, father contacted me and then when I spoke to father, then they show me the entire story, what actually happened, and I realized that girl being immigrant and they what do you call it? What they believe in it wasn't correlating with what belief system of the boy and the family was against for them to be together, so they tried to prevent them seeing each other and I saw father also wasn't treating daughter well. I didn't want to go into many details with the family. Eventually she had to hang herself to end it and then right after and she went to the dark place. I saw the place like kind of almost like a jail cell, but with no light and dumpy place. Yeah, she was sitting there and scared and didn't understand what's happening, why I'm here regretting what she's done. And then after the funeral, after her funeral a week later, boy hanged himself on the same tree.

Speaker 1:

This is a session which I have to deal with. And then he showed me, he went after her and he managed to bring her out from the hell. And then they show me reception. It was a big table with a white cloth about come, with lots of goodies on it, that chairs, people all dressed in white. They, like I said what's going on? What they, what is standing with a waiting for? And then, very, that very moment, the forest came apart and this couple stepped forward. She was dressed all in white. So on the other side they organized a wedding for them.

Speaker 1:

And all this I see as a movie. And when I told them what I can see and the idea was, they came together. They take this incarnation, the planet Earth. They take this incarnation, the planet Earth. She had a tough life to change from one reality and religious system to a new world. They've been immigrants. And he came after her to help her to go through the transition. So once she was out, for him it was no purpose to stay behind, he had to go after her. He was basically her guardian angel who took a role of a boyfriend to help her to go through transition. But once she was out he went right after her basically to rescue her.

Speaker 1:

So would you say we're all suicide going to one place? No, we can talk so much about, if you're interested, what is a suicide and why people do it. If you're interested, what is a suicide and why people do it? When we take life, for example, we agree to the tough life. Then we're leaving. Windows can be one or two windows, and then while you're living like you're born in a point A, you have to exit in point B. This is full of your lifespan and then you know, in some way in this age you are going to encounter difficulties, especially I'm talking about kids with a gender problem, with a gender identity, who see why they don't belong to their body Once they approach the window. To step out of the window is the most natural thing for them to do. This is where they can commit suicide very easily. It's too tough, they can't handle the out. It's a part of the contract. That's why they're so easily ending their life. Once you finish past that point, then you will go to the end.

Speaker 2:

You know, arthur, this is a pretty heavy topic, right, but it's incredibly heavy and controversial on another level. But one thing that throughout my life you know, reading books and talking to too many people sometimes people will say that and this is I'm just saying this going by from things that I've heard from people that a child who you know explains that they are feeling like they're not. You know they're, they're a girl, but they feel like they're a boy and things of that sort like being gay or being a lesbian and things of that sort like being gay or being a lesbian. A lot of people that I've heard say that it could be a curse on the family.

Speaker 1:

There is no such a thing as a curse. There is no such a thing. You're going to encounter more of those souls who are coming with a it's not the gender, what they call it, what they call like. If they see us as a signal, they see us like okay, let me explain you this way. When you're coming, male male, male male all your life, like warrior, life after life, you're taking male body and then time comes they will basically force you to take a female body. And same thing when you're becoming female, female, submissive, this soft energy, creating life but being always behind the husband, time comes they're asking you to take a male body. So when the swap happens, when you take a male body but in your head you're still female because many lifetimes you've been female, when you look at your body you realize I don't belong to this body.

Speaker 1:

Always, first life, first swap is most difficult. One second when you, you're already getting adopted. You, you are, you okay to be in a boy and you become very balanced. Your feminine, masculine energy, new balance. You, you can see, um, those people are very people, are very creative because they, they manipulate, playing with the both energies. Gay people they're very creative. Most of my gay customers. They've been in a past life woman, but they agreed to take a male body just to boost their creativity.

Speaker 2:

But still in the head.

Speaker 1:

They feel, they still think that a woman you understand and they get attracted to the men because they were always women.

Speaker 2:

I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so the explanation and you're going to encounter more and more of this. More of these swaps are happening now. This is the beginning of the process and they're mostly arriving to more economically steady or more developed countries because it's easier for them to be there. Most brave ones getting born in the Islamic world because they're trying to change, to bring that understanding from inside, like this kind of a yeah, very Most brave ones. They do that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so what you're saying is that it's not a mental sickness, it's more of living like their past lives.

Speaker 1:

They were women and now they have to be a man. They're conflicted. Yes, because for thousands of years this place was a place of extreme dualities Female, male energy, always everything in a conflict. That's how it is reality structured. That's why we need male energy to create conflict and the female energy always behind, trying to localize, to make it smoother, softer than that, to take care of. This is a motherly figure. That's why women were always kind of a male doesn't see them more important figure in their life. This is men's world. This is world created by men. Now what's happening? Because those men are getting jumping into the woman body. First time when they come, it's harder to adapt yourself, seeing yourself as a woman. But second time, when they come as a woman, they're already more adept, but they are more independent, they're strong, they fight for the woman, right, yeah, Because those especially I don't know should I say this? If you feel it's too controversial, you can.

Speaker 2:

No, no. I say this If you feel it's too controversial, you can. No, no, no.

Speaker 1:

My podcast is all about that, especially lesbian women who are. When you look at them, they are very manly, it's hard to distinguish, they look like a man. These are those powerful warriors, abusive men who treated women as like nothing and then, because of what they did, life after life, they had to take a woman body to experience what is it to be a woman. And with the same urge they were fighting for the woman's rights. They want their independence, they said, because in their head there are still men, and they want their place in society or in the woman's body.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's why they want their place in society or the woman body.

Speaker 1:

This way we're bringing this humanity, we're bringing it to balance. Okay, I'm channeling creators now, creators of this reality. We need to bring this. We want to stop, kind of make less wars, less aggressive, place this planet. We need to dilute these two energies, masculine and feminine energies, to tone down masculine energy and to rise the feminine energy. But we can do only by swapping genders, souls, basically.

Speaker 2:

That's an interesting way of explaining it. I haven't heard that way, that there's this big conflict like there's this big confusion with them, that they were past life like men and now they have to be in these women bodies and they're conflicted and most of them.

Speaker 1:

They just want to change it because they're looking and they say this is not me, I don't belong to this body. But next lifetime they will take to change it because they're looking and they say this is not me, I don't belong to this body. But next lifetime they will take same gender and they will be okay already.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. Do you ever come across people that say like you're crazy, you don't know what you're talking about?

Speaker 1:

No, very seldom. Like very religious people, they will bring the quotes from the Bible.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like how do you deal?

Speaker 1:

with that Not even 2%, not even 2%. I always write I say you're probably right, really, of course.

Speaker 2:

Because it's something that you genuinely have. You feel that you're in that, so that's why it's so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1:

You must understand there is no ultimate truth, there is no ultimate right and wrong. This is what it's, this is my right, and my right could be completely wrong to someone else. Who I am to tell you you believe, or you're praying to the wrong god, or you're not doing what you know it's. Their journey, is their life, and we all, on different level of our session, of our evolution, of our consciousness, we all, yeah, and I, and I think that that is the biggest political fight in the world right now.

Speaker 2:

Among you know individuals that they're just so separated that you know the people that believe that they are in their right body, it's their right, right, like, yeah, of course it's your right, you feel. But then there's this other other side, that people well, your right is trumping my right, what makes you? You know so, so I, I get it, I see that I can, I can understand, I could understand that because that's and I believe, I believe in people like yourself, because they're, I don't know like I trust myself and I trust my instinct, and I know that this is something that a lot of people might disagree with, and especially like real, real hardcore I don't want to use the word hardcore, but people that are really just fine with their religion. They might say well, you know, arthur is psychic, and psychic is not permitted in the Christian world. And so how? I want to ask this question to you how do you deal with that conflict? Do you consider yourself as a psychic?

Speaker 1:

No, no, I'm not psychic, I'm just. This is how I built. I came to this reality with this mission. I came to deliver this knowledge and that's what I'm doing. You must understand knowledge is. I always compare knowledge with the music. You hear music. Someone can hear classical music and feel completely satisfied. It correlates with your inner vibration and someone cannot stand classical music. So is the knowledge. If that knowledge is for you, you will take it in and say, wow, this is what I need to hear.

Speaker 2:

It is knowledge, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but if it's not for you, then it's not, then it's not true to you. Why am I to tell you like this is truth for everyone? No, you've got your own truth and someone else get on, and we have to learn to coexist in this world. Now, also, it's important to understand this reality is like a school, like 12 levels of the school. We are here kids from grade 1 to grade 12. I mean grade 12 looking at the grade 1, because you're in grade 12, you can't say grade 1 kids are stupid or they're ignorant. No, they are in a grade 1.

Speaker 2:

This is their time to evolve Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

We have to respect it.

Speaker 2:

I think that anybody who has a certain belief has to respect the other person's belief, for sure. I don't like. I don't like them interfering each other. I want people to really just coexist and really just be mindful and respectful of their beliefs, for sure. Um, why do you think that you were chosen to go through all of this and be here as the way you are? I agree to this.

Speaker 1:

I agree to this. I step into this. Before this I had another two on the planet Earth. They were quite short. I died quite young, the first one I've been killed in a battle in the 15th century trying to protect my master of the castle. I've been, I know, I've seen how I died. It was quite honorable death with a sword in my hand, fencing the head facing the enemy gone. And then next time I've been here about around 150 years ago with the evil, was also my daughter and we were on a beach. The big wave came, took her in and jumped into safer and we both died. That's what my second exit from this reality, and this is the third one where I came prepared to the mission All this was previewed to get adapted to this planet, to humanity, to understand how humanity functioning, how you're thinking, how you're operating, not you exactly, but humanity collectively.

Speaker 1:

I'm not part I don't see myself part of the human world, collective humanity. And it gives me opportunity to observe humanity externally, because when you're in a problem, you don't see the problem to observe it. Me opportunity to observe humanity externally, because when you're in a problem, you don't see the problem to observe it. You have to step out of you can't be part of it. To see entirety of the problem and to find solution. And to help others to to give different perspectives. This is what all about to open up um, to help others to see your neighbor and to love your neighbor. And not only love neighbor, also to love your enemy, like christ was teaching. Christ 2000 years ago gave us roadmap how to graduate the school we call earth. Just follow what he was teaching us, how we should live our life. And then this reality got nothing to give you anymore.

Speaker 2:

You think Christ knew about the dimensions.

Speaker 1:

Sorry.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying so. Christ knew about the dimensions, so it was basically like guiding us. As you said, it was like a map how to be so we can be anymore.

Speaker 1:

Yes, if we can be the way he expect us to be, then you out, you don't belong to this reality anymore. And then, um, I just remember one thing. I said I want to ask I don't know why I popped in and ask him so when you're going to come, because everybody's waiting for his second coming. He said I never left. And it was so profound. He never left. He said I'm completely aware of what's happening with you and a part of you, part of those who believe in me.

Speaker 2:

Do you think everybody has that ability to see Christ?

Speaker 1:

Those who believe in him. I spoke to many people. They're always having this kind of profound experience when they feel his presence, and that's what infuses their belief system and that's why they said this is the ultimate truth. There cannot be any truth except this one. So yeah, but what I had with him, it was like I didn't expect it to happen. I was shocked. Until now, I'm shocked.

Speaker 2:

So I'm curious what happens to the atheists? They have no belief.

Speaker 1:

Actually my main character, my book protagonist. He's an atheist and that's how the book started, when he finds himself in a limbo, basically surrounded with the darkness, because he didn't believe anything after life and afterlife is designed to your expectations. If you have no expectations, you will end up in nothingness, and it takes time for him to understand that he's out of his body and then asking the questions, like starting to remember okay, Bible was saying the spiritual people was. As he starts to think about it, what should be here, the things start to appear Because by crossing over to the other side, you can see only those who came to welcome you, only if you expect them to see.

Speaker 2:

So you create it. You're creating your afterlife by your belief system.

Speaker 1:

Basically, yes, even your reality you end up in, you are in a charge, you're in control of your reality.

Speaker 2:

Are we?

Speaker 1:

that powerful On the fourth dimension? Yes, yes, we are powerful here also, but on the other side we are manipulating with the meta. Meta is basically like kind of a liquid energy, the power of your mind enough to create objects which will be quite physical for you, but it will be absolutely not physical for those who are in this range of vibration, in this reality.

Speaker 2:

There are six dimensions, correct.

Speaker 1:

There are no strict numbers, it's like flowing one to another. They're showing me always 12 dimensions where 12 is a supreme creator, creator of universe, creator of multiverse and everyone. We are in the third dimension, fourth dimension, which, all around, surrounding fourth dimension, like all around us, is like, it's like kind of um, like a russian doll. That's matryoshka, yeah, the smallest one, and then goes another one, another one, but it's it's not like 12, because once you the three, four, they integrate it into each other. Four dimension, where we go when we die and we come back.

Speaker 2:

So are we in the third dimension right now?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we are in third dimensional reality. There is first, second, and first. The second is quantum world and the first dimension is sub-quantum world, which we don't have idea about now. We're still trying to understand quantum world.

Speaker 2:

What about soul?

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's a good question. What is a soul? Soul is a consciousness. My soul is communicating with your soul. That's it. Your mind is what your soul is, it's energy. And then, when time comes, we have to leave this reality because this biomechanical suit we're wearing now cannot hold us anymore our existence on this planet. So we leave this suit and we move into the fourth dimension to take form of spirit, which is another kind of a suit, and we look the way we look here. All over the time, you can adopt more younger look Most of the souls on the other side. They're between 25 and 30 years old.

Speaker 1:

So our souls never die your consciousness is not now, of course not. It's involving. Let me give you this. This has come to me before. I read the poem written by Rumi, famous Sufi, 800 years ago he wrote. It shook me, this poem. He said when I die as a mineral, I become a plant. When I die as a plant, I rose as an animal. When I die as an animal, I become a man. Why should I worry of death? When was I less by dying? So this is the process of evolution of the soul, or evolution of consciousness. So, before you took this body, you've been all the part of this creation, but you was part of collective consciousness. And then, when you're ready to adopt and to bring to yourself self-awareness, individual consciousness, then you're ready to step out of animal world into the human world, because now you're separated. You're someone. You're trying to understand who you are and where you are. While animal world is structured as a collective consciousness, you are while animal world is structured as a collective consciousness.

Speaker 2:

So then, could it be possible that souls sometimes are guardian angels of ours?

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is another big topic.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, we start using the word guardian angels. It's not correct. We got guardians and we got angels. Angels are angelic beings the way we imagine them. They're the souls who are never incarnate on the planet Earth. They've never been in the human body. They are the most loving and most comforting energy. Whenever we're in trouble, they just step in, make miracles, something. Someone will be saved out of accident, will come out with no scratch, jesus, how this happened. They're stepping in to save the situation. This is angelic beings. Now, when we're talking about guardians, they are different beings.

Speaker 1:

Guardians coming with those souls or those humans who are coming with a great mission to the planet Earth. They're coming to affect humanity on a global level and they're guarding them. They are nonjudgmental beings. The most powerful guardians. Hitler had I don't know how many, I don't know 30, 40 assassination attempts, even more. None of them succeeded. Until he finished with the mission, the guardians stopped back and he was allowed to die and to go. So these are like bodyguards. They don't care who you are. They are there to protect you while you're doing benevolent, almost benevolent things you came to perform on the planet Earth. So they are guardians and they are angels.

Speaker 2:

I see this. Okay, that makes sense. Does everybody have guardians?

Speaker 1:

Like I said, those who come in with a big mission, they need protection so they can always stick to the path to what they come to do. Yeah, but they also come with their spirit guides. But guardians are powerful. I saw like when I see my guardians, I can't see their heads. They're so tall. It's like a marble wall behind my back when I look up their heads in the sky. That's how big they are. And I've seen many of people who are doing this type of work. They are protected and guarded. It's important for them to do otherwise you will lose it.

Speaker 2:

Do I have guardians?

Speaker 1:

You do, I do, and you're a powerful spirit guide. Yeah, you are light worker, you light barrier. You came to help humanity and, yeah, you're bringing light. You're bringing, you're like a bridge, connecting. You're finding I'm not talking about me interesting people, bringing like opening up, helping those who are listening to you, pushing to the next level of awareness, of understanding. You are like this motherly energy. Just please listen to what I have to say. Just let me help you with this too. You come with a mission, yeah, you come with a mission. You come with your gods and you come with your spirit guides, not one, I say at least two, the female. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

who they are.

Speaker 1:

They're both females, really, yeah, very loving. They're kind of replacing each other if it's necessary. They're always present during those podcasts you're doing because, during the podcast also, spirit guides of those who you're talking to are also stepping in. They're interacting with each other to create this kind of environment where you can bring most out of the person you brought, so you can transcend this knowledge to those who are going to watch and to listen to you. You're doing very important work, yeah.

Speaker 2:

There has been about two to three times that this woman comes to my mind and I want to talk about this because you're the perfect person to talk about this with, and I know people are going to be fascinated with this, arthur, I, I, I'm. I see a woman. There's the ocean in front of me and for some reason, I'm always connected to the water. And do you know that? They're like buddhists? You know they're. They're, um, what they wear? Like that red a thing. I don't even know what to call it. I don't want to, I don't want to disrespect that, but the Buddhist outfit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this orange, kind of yes.

Speaker 2:

She's sitting like her feet crisscross like Buddhists do, and she has long hair like mine and it's white, and I always see this woman. This woman is always with me and she's sitting and I can't see her face. I could just see her hair and she's older, like she's in her late, maybe 70s, and I love her so much and I want to know who she is your primarial guide.

Speaker 1:

Your primarial guide, the one who brought you here and will be till the end with you, and she will be the first one to welcome you on the other side. The second lady is your secondary guide. Yeah, when the first one has to leave, then she will step in. Yeah, they're replacing each other, but the very fact that she shows herself as an old lady it was very rare to see a woman in that age on the other side. Most of the women, they want to be young. Like almost 99% of the women guys I've seen, they all look between 30 to 40. This she wants to show like she's a wise, she's an old soul and you can trust me she's old you can trust me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you said she's old, but that's that's, and that's what I'm visualizing now because what you said, immediately the picture appears in front of me. I don't know, yeah, I draw this picture, just she. She appeared, but this is all about settled energy, wisdom. One word I can say. It's wisdom and she's guiding you in. Okay, she's saying, like picking the people you should talk to, like she's very involved in the process choosing of who you should interact with. She's very involved in that process, choosing of who you should interact with. She's very involved in that process. She's guiding you. Suddenly, someone will appear. This is the one I want to talk to. And then, yes, yeah, I've done my work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I feel that it's very exciting.

Speaker 2:

Yes, because you guys, every single one of you, is so unique. I've had this from people so many times. So are you? Thank you. So are you is so unique. I've had this from people so many times, thank you.

Speaker 1:

So are you, my dear.

Speaker 2:

So special, god-given. I always tell this to people. I don't know what I'm doing, how I'm coming across these pages. Like you, I just stumbled upon.

Speaker 1:

She's saying you are the bridge. See yourself as a bridge between two worlds, spiritual and physical. You're creating this, many, many bridges, reaching many, many hearts on different levels. It's not only between between physical, physical too. It's like you're creating, like they're showing me, like I see the screen, and I see multiple bridges, like up going down, like everything connecting, connecting, like network.

Speaker 1:

That's what you're creating Different kind of level of souls, different backgrounds, different type of knowledge or belief system understanding. Yeah, you're just creating this crazy network with all your podcasts and whoever need to hear to listen. Uh, they will step in and they will listen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're helping them to go on, uh, on a soul level, yeah and I I love how you said it's all about knowledge, it's knowledge, and you're so right, arthur it life is like how the Bible is, it's like a university, you know, and so what is truth today, tomorrow, might be not true or only partially true.

Speaker 1:

What we knew 2000, 3000 years ago, and what we know, it doesn't mean that's what we knew. It was wrong. It's just that that portion, the part of that knowledge we had there was enough for that time, and knowledge, always given to humanity as we're ready to accept it and to use it for our benefit and not the way we used in World War II almost destroyed our planet. So now they're very cautious and that is why Internet was introduced to humanity to create collective consciousness, to connect. No matter where you are in the world, you can find each other and talk to each other.

Speaker 2:

I can literally talk to you for hours, but I do have one very important question that in my heart I want to ask you. I and you've talked about this on your channel and parents do awful things, like when people do bad things when they're younger whether that be like pedophiles, whether that be just horrible things and they grow up and they have children, do those bad things fall on their children? Because there are some people that are just living real awful life and so I'm curious to know is it because of the wrongdoing from their ancestors? Or like, how do you see that?

Speaker 1:

Children who get born into this type of families or the father, abusive father or mother they always grow to be complete opposite because once they experience, they will never put their children through. Yeah, every person I spoke to, um, they come up and they open themselves up and they are most beautiful, wonderful parents, overprotective parents, because they will never let their child experience what they went through. But you must remember we're all coming with many, many lifetimes behind our shoulders. We've been through the wars, we've been killed, we've been perpetrators and we've been through the wars. We've been killed, we've been perpetrators and we've been raped. So we've done many, many bad things right through the history of humanity and now it's time of cleansing, now it's time of closing the doors. So these abusive parents who would have hit their child time will come in the next lifetime. He has to experience and this is what we call healing process. Once child experience that.

Speaker 1:

I've seen guides who are standing in a corner of the room and crying and seeing what father doing to son and not interfering. When you're asking where God in this equation, why doesn't step in? They don't. They step aside and let it happen. To Ray's point of view, it's how we learn Only by experiencing upon us what we put others through, we are able to heal ourselves and never do what we were doing casually. Life after lifetime, that is what we call quantum leap. Humanity is changing. We're awakening too. We don't want to be who we were used to be for thousands of years.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. So the people who committed bad or awful things on people, they're going to experience that same behavior.

Speaker 1:

Yes on people. They're going to experience that same behavior. Yes, and this is how we help souls to heal. This is the only way. It's like when you say to your child just don't touch the electricity, you will get electricity. No, he still will go and put his finger at the cell. So we have to step back and let them, the child to do it, to experience, and then he will never come close to the wire or electrical power. That's how it works, spiritual world. They step aside and, with the tears in their eyes, they have to observe, look and let things to happen and they step in and deal with whatever is left there, the scrums and pieces starting to rebuild this child's life from scratch. But yeah, I know many of them. They speak to me and they're wonderful parents, wonderful parents.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just breaks my heart to know that there's not a lot of people who understand the importance of love and kindness.

Speaker 1:

Yeah but you have to grow, to understand love when you are a young soul. But look, I'm living in Africa. I'm surrounded with so many baby souls, never mind young souls. To understand love, to experience love, you have to live at least 40 to 45 lifetimes From body to body, from religion to religion, from nation to nation, from race to race. And then, when you're about to graduate the school, then you only understand what is love and you can love someone unconditionally Because, by definition, love has no opposite. They say the opposite to love is hate. By definition, love has no opposite. They said opposite to love is a hate. No, love is a pinnacle of all the emotions a human can ever experience, all positive and negative together combined. That's what love is. So what you can suppress and what you can let out of you. That's what you're able to control it, because it's all, all in us, but you let love to come through. And also important, to love this reality and to stop judging it, to see purpose in everything what's happening around us. It's for reason. This is school. We are here to learn.

Speaker 1:

Old souls are dealing with emotional terminals, young souls for them, it's all about survival. They are here to survive. Their bodies are strong, durable, they can eat anything. They will not affect Old souls. God forbid, eat something. Immediately get sick Because our bodies are very sensitive, because you cannot be this attuned, high-vibrational being with a rough body. Your body also sensitive and very vulnerable to viruses, to a change of environment. Everything affects you, all the energies around you affecting you. And then I travel through Africa and you see them and say, no, all souls will survive one hour in this environment, but they go through, they live. This is the way they are Grade one, grade two, grade three. So this is basically where I'm in school here.

Speaker 2:

How can a person know if they are a young or an old soul, then Is it something that a person can be conscious of?

Speaker 1:

Young soul. Only old souls can see it. Because you are observing, you're trying to understand that a person can be conscious of Young souls. Only old souls can see it. Because you are observing, you're trying to understand, like. I will bring this example my wife always gets upset when I'm driving around and she sees someone standing and pissing on the wall. How can they do that? The grace relaxes. It was a time we were doing the same thing. No, never. Yes, nobody born like 50, 60 years old will start from the bottom. So we've been there, we experienced that, and now we are Also.

Speaker 1:

What is important is, like young souls, they got humongous free will. They can do whatever they like. All souls' free will is so limited by your virtues, by your belief systems, by what I can do and what I cannot do, and you're very compassionate. You are a very considerate person. You will never speak loudly or you will never do something which might affect the person next to you. You will make yourself more uncomfortable to make someone more comfortable. This is all old souls, Although they're occupying so much space because energy and consciousness take space, but just trying to make yourself like I'm okay, I'm alright here, just as long as you're alright, they are very considerate beings, old souls.

Speaker 2:

I love how you said to make yourself uncomfortable. I remember when I was seven years old, Arthur, we were I think it was the earthquake the earthquake that it had just happened, and so we got into the car of my neighbor and we lived in Kotaik. It was Harazdan. I don't know if you know where Harazdan?

Speaker 1:

is. We lived in Kotaik, it was.

Speaker 2:

Harazdan. I don't know if you know where Harazdan is, near Takhkator, yes, so I mean we felt it Not as bad as Spitak, of course, but I remember getting in the car and we just had to. Multiple people had to be stuffed in that car and I was that kid that I remember the specific grandma. She came to sit and I, arthur, was trying like to be squished. Just so that she can be so comfortable, I made myself incredibly uncomfortable the road to her house down to Yerevan, just so this woman sits comfortably. So I resonate with that because I always believed that I'm like people feel it. If you're an old soul, you feel it. There's just something about you that you can see and you can feel. You know, you just know you just feel it.

Speaker 1:

You've been around, you experience everything. Most of the old souls are here not because they got karmic debts to pay. They are here to help humanity.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I believe that.

Speaker 1:

They are teachers here. By just being on the planet Earth, by living the way they do, by acting the way they act, the young souls look at them and say, yeah, I want one day to be like them. I'm not talking about wealth, about caring yourself, about behavior, general behavior. And you look at them and say, no, no, no, this is a right Somehow. You know, this is how you should behave, yeah.

Speaker 2:

How old do you think you are I?

Speaker 1:

don't know.

Speaker 2:

Can we know that no?

Speaker 1:

There's no way of knowing that it will freak you out.

Speaker 2:

Don't tell me.

Speaker 1:

I'm not from this reality. I'm not from this. I'm just a visitor. I'm just a visitor. I just came to. I'm just a messenger, that's it, just a messenger.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:

Nothing more, nothing less. Yeah, that's how I see myself.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, my dear.

Speaker 2:

It was such an honor to talk to you. You are a very special person you are, and I want you to know that You're special. You are and your family is very special. All of you just so kind and I only. You know I'm a very reserved person, I, but instantly I had like this beautiful connection with your daughter. She's so like wonderful and so free and I love families like that and I literally am just in awe of how kind and wonderful you are and I thank you for this invitation.

Speaker 2:

It was an honor to speak with you and, yeah, I'm just blown away, so thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, my dear Thank you, for having me and for this opportunity. Absolutely, keep going. I will Enjoy your stay on this planet. We're all temporary, we're all passing by.

Speaker 2:

I love how you say that as a joke. Enjoy your stay on this planet. That's so beautiful. Thank you, thank you, my dear.